Gaming pc under 600 pounds

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

Hi, im looking for advice on gaming pcs and i stummblled acorss this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-076-OG&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2485 However im not sure if its very good? if you can make a better one then tell me but if not what about improveemnts to this? BTW im a new to gaming pcs so keep it simple.

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

The price seems fair for a pre-built.
But you will need an OS so the minimum price would be 545£.
For that price the GTX750 doesn't perform very well and the CPU isn't top of the line but should perform fairly in gaming even with a very high-end GPU.

This what I would do (OS included):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£37.56 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£60.22 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£177.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£19.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.48 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £582.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:42 GMT+0000

Much better CPU and much better GPU that will run all modern games without any problem.

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

SproutSchon :

The price seems fair for a pre-built.
But you will need an OS so the minimum price would be 545£.
For that price the GTX750 doesn't perform very well and the CPU isn't top of the line but should perform fairly in gaming even with a very high-end GPU.

This what I would do (OS included):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£37.56 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£60.22 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£177.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£19.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.48 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £582.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 13:42 GMT+0000

Much better CPU and much better GPU that will run all modern games without any problem.

would a better choice to get the gtx ti with that pre build?

20salmon · Dec 12, 2014

When you buy a pre-built rig, keep in mind that the price will include a fee for assembly, and some companies (not sure if overclockers do this) will try to get rid off stock they can't ship individually (usually products with bad reviews) by sticking them into pre-built rigs. You will always get better value for your money by building the rig yourself, if you feel comfortable doing this.

Given your budget, I would go for an FX-6300 oriented build.

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

20salmon :

Dont suppose you have the time to make one quick please? i could honstly use the help with it

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

Look at the benchmarks comparing the 750 Ti and the 280x, it is night and day you will get twice the frame rate:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1041?vs=1130

The i5 will make sure your CPU will never be the limiting factor making sure whatever GPU you will plug it will work at 100% capacity.
The i5 is much better CPU than the FX-6300.
The build I put together is almost a steal at <600£ with OS.

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

SproutSchon :

did you involve a cooling system?

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

The CPU comes with a stock fan that will have to mount.
You could buy later a more efficient aftermarket cooler but it is absolutely not mandatory especially if you don't OC your CPU.

The GPU as its own integrated cooling system.

The case is very cheap but still a fair product but it comes with only one intake fan in the front.
You might buy an extra 92mm exhaust fan for a better airflow: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/case-fans/silent-series-r2-92mm

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

SproutSchon :

Thank you, just chnaged the power supply for a cheaper one and thats it. You was a lot of help.

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

jaythesnake96 :

Sure no problem at all!

Just a last piece of advice.
Don't cheap out on your PSU.
Bad product won't be able to deliver the labeled wattage.
More problematically, they will deliver dirty energy that will damage your components in the long run.
Even worse, it can set your PC on fire.
So make sure the model you pick is a reliable one, I personally don't think it is worth the 10£-20£ you will be saving.
The model I recommended is a top of the line PSU that will last very long and that you might be able to reuse in 5-10 years for another build.

20salmon · Dec 12, 2014

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/W9sdgs

Main difference from SpoutSchon's suggestion is that this one comes with 6gb/s SSD which you reserve for Windows, and it comes with an aftermarket cooler. Both builds are a good choice, but I would prefer going for the fx6300 build given your limited budget for the following reasons:

The CPU will not bottleneck the GPU, the system will run faster due to the 6gb/s SSD, and it comes with an aftermarket cooler which means lower temps and less noise.

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

20salmon :

My build included a 280x GPU that will outperform greatly the 270x.
I agree with you, an SSD and an aftermarket cooler are sweet (I personally put them in every single build I make) but are totally optional and can be added later.
The build with an i5 / 280x is very solid and gives you your raw performance.
It will run evey modern games at 60 fps with almost maxed graphic details.

madmatt30 · Dec 12, 2014

the intel build is good but I honestly wouldnt put decent components in a cheap tat case like the core 1000 when you can get a zalman z3 for less than 20 quid more

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-z3plus

a real gaming case with 4 fans & a fan controller

just to throw a decent fx6300 build in for the sake of it
very overclockable ,with the zalman case & a semi-decent aftermarket cooler

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/yhsdgs

Ive overridden the cheaper prices on some components as ordering from just 2 different suppliers will save a lot on postage costs,thus negating the price defference
Amazon is pretty much very cheap (or even free) for biggish orders & scan will deliver orders over 50 quid for 3.99

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

madmatt is right this case is much better, I didn't see it was that cheap.
Just change it from my previous but please stick with the i5 / cheap mobo combo, still below 600£.
Intel chips perform much much better especially regarding instructions per cycle, you can't simply look at # cores and clock.
Gaming won't use more than two threads (mostly single-threaded) so you won't benefit from more cores.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/361/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-4460.html
In single-threaded tasks, our estimates show that the processor (the i5-4460) has 102% better performance (than the FX-6300).

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

SproutSchon :

right now im confsued...? so shall i go with the i5 build but chnage the case? and thats it?

SproutSchon · Dec 12, 2014

Yes! At least that's what I would do.
Madmatt is right though, check whether buying from fewer retailers would lower shipping costs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£37.56 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£60.22 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£177.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.48 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £590.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 16:54 GMT+0000

jaythesnake96 · Dec 12, 2014

SproutSchon :

Yes! At least that's what I would do.
Madmatt is right though, check whether buying from fewer retailers would lower shipping costs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£130.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£37.56 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£60.22 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£177.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.48 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£71.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £590.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-12 16:54 GMT+0000

Alright, sounds good! thanks guys im not very good with this stuff lol

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