Why all the hate for Intel?

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Often when you read various comments below articles on the internet about Intel and their role in the phone/tablet market which often compares it to ARM-architecture (so usually Qualcomm), it strikes me as odd just how intense the hate is for Intel among many people who comment (usually accompanied by lack of knowledge). Is it just me that find this interesting?

Considering how tablets and smartphones are becoming more and more advanced and some people are even choosing to use them as a full replacement for a desktop/laptop, making the demand that the tablet/smartphone can be used at least almost as efficient and free as a desktop/laptop there is little doubt that the Intel's expertise at making complex instruction processors (x86) will become more and more suitable even for the tablet/smartphone market in the upcoming years.

So the market segment for the ARM-architecture is obviously on the decline in the upcoming years, but will obviously not die out any time soon and most of the biggest manufacturers of smartphone/tablets are used to using ARM and some companies will continue to do so for a far longer time than what actually makes sense (and some people are likely to keep just wanting a nice fancy phone with a lot of gadgets which will suit ARM-architecture just fine).

But why are there so many that are in denial of this general almost inevitable development and keep insisting on things that maybe was true 5-10 years ago are still true to day and keeps regurgitate the same out-of-date myths, that may had been true back when the smartphones weren't really smart at all, as to why Intel can never be able to compete against the likes of Qualcomm in the mobile/tablet segment?

What do you guys think about this? Why all this hate?

(and please do not make this into a AMD vs Intel thread, there are plenty of those already... :) )
 
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As far as I can tell, they are all just trolls, who actually know very little about the subject, looking to elicit a response. Shame that we have these kind of people on the internet :(.

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As far as I can tell, they are all just trolls, who actually know very little about the subject, looking to elicit a response. Shame that we have these kind of people on the internet :(.
 
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I can't speak to the current state of things but the underlying issue with people disliking Intel for mobile is probably due to the costs and the slower upgrade/advancement speed associated with developing a new chip compared to a partial development with ARM chips.
 

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What makes you so sure the ARM will die at all?

Intel's x86 sales are faltering on the back of longer upgrade cycles and people switching to ARM-based devices for much of their media consumption needs. ARM-based chips are also the most popular choices in tablets, phones, chromebooks, transformables and a bunch of other form factors that Intel is having a horribly hard time breaking into.

The only things ARM is missing to really become a threat to Intel on the desktop is more serious productivity-oriented software on Android and more productivity-oriented tablets/transformables/etc.

ARM/Android is the strongest threat ever to the old WinTel empire but there are no definitive signs of things really moving towards a direct confrontation yet. The way tablet progress has stagnated for most of the last two years certainly did not do anything to help move things along.
 

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I never said that I think they will die, let alone "sure they will die", in fact I even pointed out that they are likely to still have a significant segment of the market (as you also pointed out).

"obviously not die out any time soon" is quite some different statement than what you implied I said...

Anyway this discussion was not intended to be about this, but about the hate so many seem to have against Intel on the Internet and how relations that was true perhaps 5 years ago keep popping up as arguments when there are little or no validity in them anymore...

 

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You also said ARM was "obviously on the decline" even though global ARM-based SoC shipments are still rising faster than anything else. High-end tablet and phone sales may be slowing down but ARM-based chips are getting integrated into all sorts of consumer electronics simply because device designers are familiar with the workflow.

Intel delivered too little, too late at initially excessive price points after many device developers had already flocked to ARM-based alternatives and Intel is fighting an uphill battle from there no matter how good their chips might be.

Another problem is that a fair chunk of the most popular Android apps use the ARM NDK so any Android device manufacturer choosing Intel will end up facing customers complaining about broken or slow NDK-based apps.

In other words, Intel simply missed the boat while the sailing was good. Now they have to earn market share the hard way.
 

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No I said the segments they are dominant in was... Please, are you attempting a world record in misleading quotation?

I am sorry and don't mean to be rude, but you seem to have completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread...
 

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I guess you are right. It's as simple as that. I suppose I give those comments and "articles"/blogs put out by some people way to much credit. Thanks for stating the obvious, I guess it was needed for me.