Decent gaming computer? Looking for alright, not too expensive.

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Hi. I'm a bit new to the gaming computer thing after playing on a MacBook Air for a while. The following is a custom computer I want Ironside to make me. Can y'all tell me if this is decent, or if there are improvements I should make? Looking to play maybe Minecraft, possibly Skyrim, Rust, etc. Anyways, I apologize if this is too in depth, not really great at the whole specs thing, but...

Case: Thorex (Mid-Tower)
Additional Case Fans: 1 X 120mm Cooler Master Sickleflow High Performance Fan
Intel Processor: Intel Core I3-4150 3.4GHz (Dual Core)
CPU Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Intel Motherboard: Asrock B85 [4 DDR3 Memory Slots]
Memory: 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz
Primary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200RPM
Optical Drive: DVD Writer
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon R7 250X 1GB (Min. 600 Watt Power Supply)
Power Supply: Standard 600 Watt
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Networking: Internal Wireless N 150Mbps
Monitor: Acer 21.5'' 1920 X 1080 LCD Monitor
Mouse/Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo

Please be as in-depth as you can. Also, let me know if there are unnecessary parts. All help welcome. Thanks!
 
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What state/region?

If you bought something (Not recommending this in particular) and put a 120$ GTX 750ti in it, you would be better off.

This is a bundle with the monitor. You can probably get them to put the GPU in for you if you buy it from them and have negotiating skills. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-aspire-atc-605-ub11-desktop-23-ips-led-monitor-package/9999227100050000.p?id=pcmprd225800050000&skuId=9999227100050000

The GPU will run on whatever PSU it has and it's significantly better than the 250X.

It has WiFi and all you need is a keyboard and mouse (I think), may be an external DVD drive.
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I'd say my max budget is $1000, but I'd prefer somewhere in the $900 range. Yes, I live in the US. And I only picked the 600W because the graphics card says it requires a 600W. I'm not sure what the PSU is, sorry, bit of a noob here. If something is astray, what would you recommend I do to alleviate the problem?
 
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OK. I ran through Ironside to see what you could get, and the improvements I would make pushed the price up to nearly $1200.

pcpartpicker.com is a good tool for value. This is very close to your build and this is how much it would cost if you bought the parts yourself. (f you live close to me, I'd charge you at least $100 to put it together, with your help so you know how it works. Less per person if you have a friend who wants to build one)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 250X 1GB Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.49 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $629.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 09:24 EST-0500

If you have to go with Ironside, then you are trapped between your budget and what they can supply for that.

This is the sort of thing I would recommend for your budget, including over $100 to have it assembled. With a fixed assembly cost some other minor upgrades are possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $739.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 09:34 EST-0500

This system has:
a more modern motherboard.
8Gb of RAM vs 4 and faster speed and CAS
1000Gb vs 500 Gb of storage
a better GPU (I'd spend more money here to upgrade futher)
the right, good PSU
an IPS 23" monitor with speakers.
 
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So, your recommended custom set up is cheaper, right? Today I will talk to an Ironside member to see what he thinks. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any professional computer assemblers near me and I'd like to avoid the hassle and time of me building it myself. Ironside's builds are already... built. So, I think I am set on Ironside unless I could possibly find a good assembler. Since I will probably use Ironside, what are the upgrade recommendations that you made? Also, did you use Intel or AMD? And, lastly, on Ironside, and I know you don't work for them, but most liquid cooling system available on their website are no maintenance, correct? I don't have to refill them? Thanks.
 
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I had a good look around their site. They do provide good warranty and support, but they aren't producing enough value for me. (Essentially, their prices are too high) Intel is best for the future and 'safer'. If you know exactly what you want and what you plan to do, there may be an AMD option that would work. For all things you want to do, Intel will not be 'wrong' and for only a few will AMD be 'right'. To get the best out of AMD, you need to overclock.

The system you have build needs no CPU cooler beyond stock and you certainly do not need liquid cooling of any sort.

You really need 2 x 4GB memory and I would want at least a 260X 2GB.

Have you considered other suppliers? There are other configurers out there. (I'm a school teacher here's what we did at school http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2328703/build-log-mini-itx-middle-school.html)
 
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Yeah. However, I'm trying to get a decent computer that'll last a while. I can't find anyone that assembles computers near me, so it looks like Ironside. Are their any other good gaming computer companies out there? I prefer smaller, no Alienware, Razer, etc.
 
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Yeah. However, I'm trying to get a decent computer that'll last a while. I can't find anyone that assembles computers near me, so it looks like Ironside. Are their any other good gaming computer companies out there? I prefer smaller, no Alienware, Razer, etc.

 
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What state/region?

If you bought something (Not recommending this in particular) and put a 120$ GTX 750ti in it, you would be better off.

This is a bundle with the monitor. You can probably get them to put the GPU in for you if you buy it from them and have negotiating skills. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-aspire-atc-605-ub11-desktop-23-ips-led-monitor-package/9999227100050000.p?id=pcmprd225800050000&skuId=9999227100050000

The GPU will run on whatever PSU it has and it's significantly better than the 250X.

It has WiFi and all you need is a keyboard and mouse (I think), may be an external DVD drive.
 
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