Do I need to update my bios to use this video card?

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

I have an xps 8500 with an a09 bios and I was wondering if this graphics card will work with it (with an upgraded psu of course) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DBPKEOI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2NG4HB43UEDVL

clutchc · Dec 13, 2014

It's possible, but not as unlikely as it would be if it was the new Maxwell-equipped GTX 750 Ti, GTX 970, or 980.

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

it should work, why wouldnt it

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

Okay. This is not the answer for one... I just keep thinking that that is the reply button... Okay then.... But anyways. The xps 8500 has had problems with certain video cards because of its bios. I'm not sure of either.

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

they rarely lock their bios .. they leave it open 90% of the time

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

It's not the fact that they lock it, it is the fact that the bios is just sometimes uncompatible with some things. I'll show you a link to the forum post.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19474677?pi21953=1

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

blacksheep123 :

It's not the fact that they lock it, it is the fact that the bios is just sometimes uncompatible with some things. I'll show you a link to the forum post.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19474677?pi21953=1

sapphire cards have never had an issue with oem hardware like hp

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

orangesmasher221 :

sapphire cards have never had an issue with oem hardware like hp

This isn't a sapphire card and this isn't hp. People have issues with video cards with dell computers.

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

blacksheep123 :

This isn't a sapphire card and this isn't hp. People have issues with video cards with dell computers.

hp/dell ... all oem boards are manufactured by foxconn industries ltd china

sapphire manufactured cards usualy have no issues according to my experience

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

orangesmasher221 :

hp/dell ... all oem boards are manufactured by foxconn industries ltd china

sapphire manufactured cards usualy have no issues according to my experience

The board? Including the bios? Because the bios is what people have problems with.

clutchc · Dec 13, 2014

Is that the latest BIOS available for your board? (a09)

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

clutchc :

No. a12 is. I have heard horror stories about updating too...

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

blacksheep123 :

orangesmasher221 :

hp/dell ... all oem boards are manufactured by foxconn industries ltd china

sapphire manufactured cards usualy have no issues according to my experience

The board? Including the bios? Because the bios is what people have problems with.

usualy yes, they outsource it to american megatrends inc or make their own proprietary bios

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

orangesmasher221 :

usualy yes, they outsource it to american megatrends inc or make their own proprietary bios

clutchc · Dec 13, 2014

I haven't done a BIOS update on a Dell in ages. On any pre-built in fact. It's pretty easy on modern boards that come with utility disks that include a Win-based app to search it out and update it for you. I don't suppose Dell offers anything like that?
Can you link me to the page that includes BIOS updates for your system?

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

clutchc :

http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/xps-8500/drivers

clutchc · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

That is a .EXE file that has to be run in Windows. So it appears to be a self-installing BIOS flash. Not like the old days. Get the card, try it with the existing BIOS. If it isn't recognized (I think it will be), take it out and put the old card back in, and do the BIOS update.

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

thats why we here at tomshardware suggest ppl to build their own pc instead of buying a prebuilt one ... less crap to bear from the big companies

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

clutchc :

orangesmasher221 :

That is a .EXE file that has to be run in Windows. So it appears to be a self-installing BIOS flash. Not like the old days. Get the card, try it with the existing BIOS. If it isn't recognized (I think it will be), take it out and put the old card back in, and do the BIOS update.

Sounds good. I might actually go with this card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B3WTWXU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

At the time, I had no clue how to build a computer. I know how to now but that is now.

clutchc · Dec 13, 2014

That's a nice card. But did you know the R9-270 is the same card clocked slower? If you feel like OC'ing, you can save yourself some money by getting the R9-270 instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-H2auvlHs
If that isn't your thing, then grab that 270X.

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

dont be tensed on bygone stuff...

i just researched.. these cards are confirmed
GeForce GT 545
GeForce GTX 555
AMD Radeon HD7570
AMD Radeon HD7770
AMD Radeon HD7870

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

blacksheep123 :

orangesmasher221 :

dont be tensed on bygone stuff...

i just researched.. these cards are confirmed
GeForce GT 545
GeForce GTX 555
AMD Radeon HD7570
AMD Radeon HD7770
AMD Radeon HD7870

The closest one there is the 7870. Which is more expensive than the r9 270x.

orangesmasher221 · Dec 13, 2014

clutchc :

And that is why I'm wary about getting a graphics card. Someone on the dell forums just said that the 270 didn't work but the 270x did. And do you think it is safe to update my bios?

blacksheep123 · Dec 13, 2014

orangesmasher221 :

its equal to an r9 280

these are the only 2 remaining on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5751ZR9249&cm_re=HD_7870-_-9SIA5751ZR9249-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129262&cm_re=HD_7870-_-14-129-262-_-Product

Do I need to update my bios to use this video card?

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