gtx 970 vs and 290x why is amd expensive and worst?

John Lin · Dec 14, 2014

Why is that 290x cost more and give less performance than gtx 970? i am thinking about getting a high end gfx and i am considering buying gtx 970. i want to do an AMD comparison, and see if they have something in the smiliar range and so far they do not.

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

AMD cannot touch the price bracket the 970 is currently in.
Go with the 970 if you budget allows it.

John Lin · Dec 14, 2014

Cant AMD lower the price to match 970? because it makes no sense to buy 290 at all if something less expensive will perform better or the same, at a much lower electricity comsumption, and run quite! that is like paying a 350 bucks for fx 8350 instead of buying intel i5 at 300 bucks.

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

John Lin :

When AMD has something to compete better in that price bracket, they will lower the price of the 290.

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

If I remember correctly the they are similarly priced right now and the 290x is still slightly faster than the 970. The only reason the 970 would be better is that it's more power efficient that the any of the AMD cards at this time.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-13.html

John Lin · Dec 14, 2014

Now i am debating between MSI 970 gaming 4g or gigabyte wind force. The review do not really go into the brands, and it is hard to pick one. Personally I want a machine that run quite, does anyone have any personal experience with those two cards? I am not sure if this is the same case in US, in canada, 970 goes from 400 bucks to 470 (zotac amp! is the highest one). 290x cost about 550 dollars

Gam3r01 · Dec 14, 2014

Depending on resolution the 290x is better or evenly matched.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/25.html

Not to mention the 290x can be found for around 300 bucks...

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

The 970 provides better avg frame rates for the same price.
Better frames while using less power.

(In average resolutions, of course)

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

No matter how you come about it I guess the point is that the 290x isn't necessarily more expensive or worse. The heading to this post should have said GTX 970 Vs AMD What's their differences?

johnnyb105 · Dec 14, 2014

Get the 970 cant belive I said that lol I am A AMD fan but the r290 and r 290x seem to have issues black screening all the time do you really want that headach?

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290X-vs-GeForce-GTX-970

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

neieus :

If I go to my favourite site for buying stuff you don't appear to be proved correct, the 970 is the cheaper card of the ones in stock.
http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-amd/radeon-r9-290x-pci-e-%282816-streams%29

http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-nvidia/geforce-gtx-970-%281664-cores%29

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

neieus :

You're right. I always forget there are resolutions higher than my own (1920 x 1080) lol.

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

To johnnyb105 Oh I totally agree with you on that one... I'm also an AMD fan although I will never discriminate anyone because of their choice for parts by trying to provide an unbiased opinion. I recently went from a HD 7950 to a EVGA 970 SC and totally loving it.

To Mousemonkey well clearly different sites will have different prices and as I mentioned before I said they were "similarly priced" which was based off the web sites I visit.

Either way If I had to do it all over again I would still get the 970 because it's more efficient which means it runs cooler thus sounds quieter. He the EVGA cards fan doesn't even turn on if I'm not gaming!

Edit: Oh yeah I did have a lot of problems with black screening... even though I did find a work around it was crazy annoying. This is a problem I haven't had with the 970 so far.

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

John Lin :

As for a specific 970, if I were to ever get one.. I would buy the G1 970 from gigabyte.
It is by far the best overclocker.

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

neieus :

Care to share?

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202079&cm_re=290x-_-14-202-079-_-Product (sapphire 290x - $350)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487076&cm_re=970_gtx-_-14-487-076-_-Product (EVGA 970 - $350)

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

Oh gladly... here you go here you'll find a whole list from different manufactures.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+290x&N=-1&isNodeId=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=GTX+970&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

A_Goat :

Rather than cherry picking two cards, why didn't you just post a link to the complete listings for both?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600536049&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600473871&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20R9%20290X

The 970's start at 279.00 and the 290X's start at 314.00, nothing similar about that IMO.

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

When it comes to overclocking though it does come down to luck. Gigabyte just might be the best one but check this out http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/12

neieus · Dec 14, 2014

.... Ok Mousemonkey you're kind of stuck on your opinion but I didn't see a 970 at 279 either way I'll just leave it at that because it's really hi jacking from the original posters question at this point and not really helping.

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

neieus :

As pointed out to goat, the 970's start out cheaper, and by quite a bit too.

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

The 970 you're referencing to is out of stock, and an open box.
Not exactly worth mentioning.

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

neieus :

It was there and has been removed, and pointing out your misleading opinion is not hijacking IMO.

Mousemonkey · Dec 14, 2014

A_Goat :

So it was there, thank you for the confirmation.

A_Goat · Dec 14, 2014

Mousemonkey :

Yes, open box cards are cheaper than new cards.
The non-open (new, with full warranty) box version of the ASUS stix is also $350.

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