Whats AMD's Problem.. Someone kick them in the face!

WarCrysis

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No joke. the lack of new CPU's from the AMD came is questionable. whats happening here. they must be kidding. Someone kick them in the face please...

they have FM2+ its a okay chipset
they have AM3+ its a okay chipset

there FX chips are old now. we havent seen new gen chips. even for a DDR3 platform..

we need a FX1xxx series. even three... JUST THREE new chips would be a breath of fresh air. make a 6 core and two 8 cores low med and high range.. (even though i doubt with there current tech it will be high end) we need new chips.. AM3+ is died now for the only reason that AMD cant even put out THREE chips. in 2012 the FX 8350 was cool.. 2015 is like a few days away WTF AMD.

Someone Kick someone that works at AMD in the face please.
 
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I'm gonna go ahead and guess you're upset because AMD hasn't announced any new high-performance CPU's and because of that you're completely ignoring all the kabini and Kaveri chips.

AMD is a much smaller and poorer company than Intel (Intel has literally ten times the income and employee count of AMD), and AMD is only *slightly* larger than Nvidia, but they've been fighting a two front war against both companies for 8 years now.

AMD seems to be finally focusing on what they can do better than both Intel and Nvidia, provide single stack CPU/graphics solutions. It's a shame it took them this long to get here, but they've also been developing/producing seperate full ranges of CPU's and Video cards the whole time as well. That's not...

t3naci0ust

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Tell me about it..... I love AMD and have the 9590, but they need to get there shit together whenever it comes to processors. At least they are going to be the kings in the graphics market with the new 390x coming out early next year
 

mbreslin1954

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Too bad ATI didn't buy AMD instead of the other way around. I bought nothing but AMD for years back in the day when they were the first out with 64-bit CPUs and true dual-core CPUs, but once Intel woke up and put their engineering talents to work and came out with the Core 2 architecture, AMD just couldn't catch up. AMD was able to get the jump on an Intel that had grown lazy by hiring a slew of engineers from DEC's (Digital Equipment Corp.) Alpha processor team, but that didn't last forever.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and guess you're upset because AMD hasn't announced any new high-performance CPU's and because of that you're completely ignoring all the kabini and Kaveri chips.

AMD is a much smaller and poorer company than Intel (Intel has literally ten times the income and employee count of AMD), and AMD is only *slightly* larger than Nvidia, but they've been fighting a two front war against both companies for 8 years now.

AMD seems to be finally focusing on what they can do better than both Intel and Nvidia, provide single stack CPU/graphics solutions. It's a shame it took them this long to get here, but they've also been developing/producing seperate full ranges of CPU's and Video cards the whole time as well. That's not even counting the TrueAudio DSP and ARM chips they're working on...oh, and they developed the chips in all the current gen consoles, too.

All this on a smaller budget than intel spends just on CPU R&D.

I may have an intel CPU & Nvidia GPUs in my gaming rig right now, but I have huge respect for AMD (and my Laptop, HTPC and NAS are running AMD ;)

 
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I think amd's always had a smaller budget than intel. When intel's had issues with chips not working as they'd hoped they have the resources to quickly turn it around. I've got a feeling amd dumped a lot into bulldozer and when it didn't pan out as they'd hoped they shifted to other markets where they were more successful.

Not sure if it's due to programmers choosing to code most everything in x86 or what but risc type architectures just haven't fared well in personal pc's. Typically they've done well through the years and managed to hang onto top spots in super computing but otherwise intel's maintained the lead in smaller home platforms. That's why other companies like cyrix faded away. Apple was headed that way too before they dropped their power pc chips (risc based) for intel processors and essentially befriended the 'enemy' - but they transitioned where other companies haven't.

Even though amd is technically x86 based, the bulldozer line architecture change sort of goes backwards and leans more toward a risc based approach. Using 'modules' with 2 cores and 1 shared fpu wasn't something new, it was done before by DEC and called clustered integer core back in 96.

While it sucks that amd has kind of abandoned the desktop market a bit, they likely did the smart thing. Concentrated their efforts on their more successful ventures like gpu's and apu's, mobile solutions and focusing on arm based multicores for servers. They have to go where the money's at. Lacking the processing power per clock of intel, it's forced them to sell off what should have been their 'high end' chips at much lower prices in order to stay competitive. Instead of their chips bringing in over $200/ea like they planned, they're only bringing in around $160 or less. That hurts and probably shrunk their profit margin significantly just to ensure they didn't end up with a pile of unsold chips.
 

bmacsys

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Your post has all the earmarks of being authored by a 16 year old. It cost billions of dollars to design and build out cpu's. AMD is about 1/20th size of Intel, if that. making cpu's is a about as complicated as any business on the face of this planet. It isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. Not by a long shot.
 

bmacsys

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Some people on this forum are just so brain dead it is a wonder they can formulate a post. Let alone Google something!
 
From AMDs standpoint, it wouldn't make much sense to mobilize the resources to release a new, slightly updated platform when what they have is - I dare say it - good enough.

I'm perfectly fine letting the bulldozer-family run its course, and allowing AMD the time to develop a socket that has all the bells and whistles of a modern, mature socket: DDR4 compatibility, M.2 SATA ports, etcetera etcetera.

Unless you are a hardcore enthusiast who's aiming for 100+ frames-per-second on ultra settings, the CPUs on the FM2+ platform, and any I3-class CPU, is good enough to run any modern game.
 
The largest, and leading reason AMD is behind in the CPU market is simply because of architecture.
Intel owns their own manufacturing processes, and that makes it easier for them to innovate and shrink die sizes.
AMD has to outsource to get their chips made, which costs more, and they simply dont have the capital to invest in the manufacturing process.

Overall, give me a Phenom III x8 lineup, I will be happy.
 

-Lone-

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"Hail to the King"

Roll the carpet and bow to the king while it blows every card off of it's path on it's release.

Overview: Hail to the King: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121875

I don't see any other card making the same intro, if Nvidia manages to do the same thing like this one day, I'd gladly switch over, I also like them, they just don't have what I need at the moment. To quote Linus, "Pushing the boundaries of what's possible of modern engineering and manufacturing" for the R9 295x2, I don't see other cards that can dominate 4k as well as the king of video cards.

6:05-6:10 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgsG_wl0kc

Thumbs up for Nvidia and AMD fans! :D