A small difference in ram?

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OutsideYourWorld

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Just about decided what I want, but I found these two sets of ram:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428&cm_re=ripjaws-_-20-231-428-_-Product

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314&cm_re=ripjaws-_-20-231-314-_-Product

From what I see the difference is in the name. GBRL and GBXL? $10 difference...

Motherboard: GigaByte GigaByte Motherboards GA-890GPA-UD3H

I do plan to eventually OC my system, so should I go for a 1866 type or just stick with this? (does it really matter?)

And does ram usually go on sale on boxing day? (was thinking of asking for a christmas gift but if its cheaper after the day, might as well wait)

Thanks all!
 
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Most Phenom II CPUs support DDR3-1333, so DDR3-1600+ will be overclocking. DDR3-1866 is the max you will really need, so you can look at some of the CL8 and CL9 models.

Between the two DDR3-1600 kits you mentioned, definitely go with the cheaper one.

NewEgg always has some sort of sale going on.

Actually, I found the deal you want:

DDR3-1866 CL8 for $2 cheaper and much faster than the RAM you were looking at!

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231538&cm_re=gskill_1866_8gb-_-20-231-538-_-Product

Happy Holidays :)
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Most Phenom II CPUs support DDR3-1333, so DDR3-1600+ will be overclocking. DDR3-1866 is the max you will really need, so you can look at some of the CL8 and CL9 models.

Between the two DDR3-1600 kits you mentioned, definitely go with the cheaper one.

NewEgg always has some sort of sale going on.

Actually, I found the deal you want:

DDR3-1866 CL8 for $2 cheaper and much faster than the RAM you were looking at!

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231538&cm_re=gskill_1866_8gb-_-20-231-538-_-Product

Happy Holidays :)
 
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Ok cool, thanks! And as for this 1866, do I HAVE to have the system Overclocked before I install, or can I install it then overclock whenever to get the full benefit?

And do I have to worry about any of the other numbers on that ram working with my motherboard? (latency I thought was something to check, though I can't find any info on that on my motherboard)
 
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1866 will be tight:

For 1866 and your CPU, give this a try (might not work, not all 1055s can carry 1866)

1. CPU Host Frequency will need to be 233 for DDR3-1866. CPU can natively support DDR3-1333 max, but does have an 8X memory multiplier for DDR3-1600, so that is the one you will be using. 233 * 8.00 = ~DDR3-1864

Note, this will also overclock your CPU Frequency, so you should lower the CPU Ratio if this is not desired. If you would like to keep it, make sure to find the sufficient voltage it needs to be completely stable.

2. CPU-NB Frequency should be 2800MHz, or 12X (233 * 12.00 = ~2800MHz).

Then set DRAM Timings tCL - tRCD - tRP - tRAS - Command Rate/Timing (that the memory is rated for).

3. DRAM Voltage (that the memory is rated for)
Even if the memory is 1.50V, default, it should still be manually set.

4. Lastly, CPU-NB Voltage +0.1V. This will help the CPU fully support DDR3-1866 since AMD technically supports 2 modules of DDR3-1333/1600 only.

5. F10, save, exit, and everything should be ready to go.
 
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I'll save that, thank you.

If it would be pushing my processor to the limit, would you just go for the 1333 or 1600 option instead, or try for this one? If it didn't work that would, well, just suck ;)
 
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Hey again. Installing ram right now. Few questions.

-On the cpu Northbridge freq I can only go x10 it seems. Thoughts?

-For the cpu nb voltage would that show up as cpu nb VID control, nb voltage control or cpu voltage control?

-The command rate timing is automatically at 2T and I can't find the info for what I should pick

So I Changed the CPU frequency to 280 so that at x10 the CPU-NB Frequency would be 2800Mhz. Then rather than x8 multiplier I kept it at 6.66 so the frequency was 1864mhz. Sound good?

The CPU ratio was something like 4200 or something like that, which just sounds a bit high?

So on THOSE settings I tried starting the computer, and got "Last settings in the BIOS may not coincide with current H/W states"
Below that: Current CPU Speed: 12.0 x 200hmz
Current memory speed: 1333mhz
Current HT speed: 2000mhz

I was also getting a "voltage not optimized" warning and wasn't sure of the exact cause of that.

Until I figure this out I just kept the correct timings for this RAM and left everything else at auto, and my computer booted up ok and things are alright at the moment.
 
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-Correct, it is a locked CPU, so you will need to tweak the CPU Host Frequency for any overclocking.

-CPU NB VID Control

-You can try 1T to see if it is stable, if not, 2T is fine.

-You're on the right track, but did you boost any voltages? As your computer is saying as well, the voltages may not be sufficient for the overclock changes you have done. CPU-NB Frequency went up, so CPU NB VID needs to go up. It would probably be easier to set the CPU Frequency to around factory speed first, then tweak the ratio after you get the RAM set up. Makes it easier especially to keep track and understand what you are doing/overclocking. Keep us posted!

I'd say CPU-NB VID 1.30V is a good spot to try.

 
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