Is this setup compatible?

Maxhammer25 · Dec 18, 2014

Hi, is this setup compatible?
Graphics card Msi gtx 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2NIA2CGVBCUK3
Processor Intel i5 4690k: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Cpu cooler cooler master 212 evo:
Motherboard Msi z97 pc mate: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K8KLW3G/ref=gno_cart_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Chassi Aerocool mechatron: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aerocool-Mechatron-Gaming-Case-20cm/dp/B008XC6B78/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1418930501&sr=1-1&keywords=aerocool+mechatron
Psu corsair CX600M (600W): http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ALYOTTI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A18VZRL63WYSBI
Two additional fans: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/huc/view.html?ie=UTF8&newItems=C22CM8JVNCVFNO%2C1
16gb of ram and maximum 32gb: No Link
Hard drive 2Tb: No link

DonkeyOatie · Dec 18, 2014

Everything will fit and work together, except I do not know about the cooler and the case.

I would not use that power supply for this system and would move to a higher tier unit from this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html list.

zeyuanfu · Dec 18, 2014

It's pretty solid, but I'd change the PSU and motherboard. What's your budget? A better build can be gotten.

sora · Dec 18, 2014

Your build is pretty solid OP! The power supply uses poor capacitors so get an XFX 650W or Seasonic 620W power supply and you should be set.

Maxhammer25 · Dec 19, 2014

My budget is 800£ but i already have ram and a hardrive. So i need to change the motherboard and psu, to what?

DonkeyOatie · Dec 19, 2014

Looking at UK prices, the cheapest semi-modular supply I would want to use is the Antec 620 High Current Gamer, which costs about 10 quid more, although the Antec HCG 750 would work for me, even though it is not modular.

I'm OK with the motherboard, although I might consider a mATX board if it saved money. Just how much overclocking do you plan to do? The more, the better motherboard you need.

That case represents10% of your budget. I'd be looking to move money from the case to the system.

Maxhammer25 · Dec 19, 2014

I'm not planning to overclock. What other case should i get and what should i buy instead?

Maxhammer25 · Dec 19, 2014

I'm not planning to overclock. What other case should i get and what should i buy instead?

DonkeyOatie · Dec 19, 2014

If you do not plan to overclock, you can save quite a bit.

These two parts PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£162.18 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £227.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 22:15 GMT+0000

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Total: £255.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 22:18 GMT+0000

means that you can keep your case as it is.

There's no great advantage for the i5 4690 over the i5 4460 and saving another thirty pounds.

Jonesie995 · Dec 19, 2014

Your PSU is scaring me. A GTX 970 says you should have a minimum of 600W, but your CPU will eat a fair bit of power, especially if you overclock it (seeing as you did the the 'K' version of the CPU). And if you overclock your GPU you'll definitely have power issues.

DonkeyOatie · Dec 19, 2014

The GTX 970 draws less than 150W unless overclocked. If not overclocking I'd run a system with one on a good 450W supply (with two PCIe connectors)

Jonesie995 · Dec 19, 2014

80+ Bronze is quite horrible, and the rest of the Computer would use about 300W. When it says 80+ Bronze Certified, it means its slightly above 80% efficient with its power.
Lets say he doesnt overclock his GTX 970. Then, his GPU would be taking 145W of energy, and the rest of his computer would be drawing 250W (I decided to make it less, just to help prove a point). Thats a total of 395W.
Now, this would normally seem good, you'd think "Perfect, got plenty of power" but no. Just because a PSU says 500W doesnt mean its 500W. Depending on it certification, it is quite a bit less. So this is bronze, so lets say it just reached the 80% load test, and got its Bronze Certification. If you take away 20% of 500, you get 400. 5 Watts is cutting it very close, its way to close.

Better safe than sorry, get a 650W (as long as your budget can handle it). Ive seen people get too weak of a PSU before and its never fun getting a refund on a PSU.

sora · Dec 19, 2014

Jonesie995 :

A 620W/650W power supply should do fine, preferably one manufactured by XFX or Seasonic.

Jonesie995 · Dec 19, 2014

sora :

I swear it said 500W before hand haha, 600W on the other hand is fine, Nvidia actually supports 600W or above for the 970, so all is good with that.

RazerZ · Dec 19, 2014

Jonesie995 :

Very informative article which clears up a few PSU myths. It makes for a good read.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/343495-28-power-supply-efficiency-myths

Quote from the article

a power supply rated at 500 W can deliver 500 W of power to the system regardless of its efficiency, the efficiency tells you how much power it must draw from the wall to deliver those 500 W it does not affect its output capacity, a 500 W power supply that is 90% efficient can deliever the same amount of power as one that is only 80% efficient.

Jonesie995 · Dec 19, 2014

RazerZ :

Jonesie995 :

Very informative article which clears up a few PSU myths. It makes for a good read.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/343495-28-power-supply-efficiency-myths

Quote from the article

a power supply rated at 500 W can deliver 500 W of power to the system regardless of its efficiency, the efficiency tells you how much power it must draw from the wall to deliver those 500 W it does not affect its output capacity, a 500 W power supply that is 90% efficient can deliever the same amount of power as one that is only 80% efficient.

Well thank you for posting that, I've always been quite certain about PSUs and how much power they can supply, but after reading that, I can see I am wrong.

Thank you, I will remember that for future reference.

DonkeyOatie · Dec 19, 2014

The rest of the system will use less than 100W

Maxhammer25 · Dec 20, 2014

DonkeyOatie :

If you do not plan to overclock, you can save quite a bit.

These two parts PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£162.18 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £227.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 22:15 GMT+0000

vs

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Total: £255.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 22:18 GMT+0000

means that you can keep your case as it is.

There's no great advantage for the i5 4690 over the i5 4460 and saving another thirty pounds.

So i will not need a cpu cooler?

sora · Dec 20, 2014

Jonesie995 :

sora :

I swear it said 500W before hand haha, 600W on the other hand is fine, Nvidia actually supports 600W or above for the 970, so all is good with that.

I guess 500W could work but that would be pushing it.

DonkeyOatie · Dec 21, 2014

If you are not going to overclock your CPU, then the stock cooler will do just fine.

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