is this overkill? (for a gaming rig)

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

Hi,
my alienware blew up last night - Lightning!
so am looking at desktops now. i'd like your (overall) opinion on the following...
(just for gaming)
thanks

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i Water Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 5
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1866mhz Vengeance (2x8GB)
Hard Drive: Seagate 1TB (Hybrid 8GB SSD)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB
Case: Corsair Graphite 230T
PSU: 650W Corsair CS Modular

flamefire999 · Dec 24, 2014

The i7 isn't really helpful for gaming. It gives you very little boost in FPS. I would get an i5-4690k.
Everything else is pretty much good except for the ram
If you want to save a little bit of money get 8gb. You don't need 16gb for gaming.

zeyuanfu · Dec 24, 2014

Yes, it's a bit overkill, as an i7 has more threads than needed and the 980 just isn't worth it for the price. What's your budget? A build with more bang for your buck can be gotten.

Dunlop0078 · Dec 24, 2014

Yes, yes it is. If your playing at 1080p the 980 is overkill a 970 will do fine. And at the moment no games make use of an i7 so an i5 4690k would give you equal performance in games. And no games use even close to 16gb of ram, most dont even get close to using 8gb.

endeavour37a · Dec 24, 2014

albosan :

No, not really, I would downgrade to a 4690k though. Get a better CPU cooler, 120mm water is not going anywhere, get at least a 240mm or 280mm set up. The 980 is a great card and will last a good long while, with 4GB on it, getting 16GB of RAM is not a bad idea. Would up the PS to 750W so you can add another 980 down the road when you need it, it's a better upgrade path in graphics than replacing it with a new card. I would go with an SSD and HDD instead of a Hybrid drive, just me.

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

Wow & Thanks
never mind the computers!
your response time must be close to 1ns!
i will adjust
brb

bignastyid · Dec 24, 2014

For 1080p I would go for a 4690k, 8Gb(2x4Gb), GTX970, 250Gb SSD, 1Tb hdd, and Evga B2 or G2 750w. For 1440p just add a 2nd 970 or go with the 980.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YqRY8d
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YqRY8d/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($76.76 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1113.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 13:47 EST-0500

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

well, it might not be neceserry if your on a budget, but your pc will be up to date longer. if you add a 850w powersupply you can just add a second gtx 980 in one year and keep it insanely fast till 2017 or so
here is my build and yes, you could go with less for gaming, but this is just better

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

if you would be so kind...
what about this:

Case CORSAIR 230T COMPACT GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache

Motherboard Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, XFIRE/SLI

Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 980 - 1 DVI, 1 mHDMI, 3 mDP - 3D Vision Ready

1st Hard Disk 120GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s

2nd Hard Disk 1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

Power Supply CORSAIR 750W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling Corsair H80i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

endeavour37a · Dec 24, 2014

Just a note on the D14, the D15 is out and out performs the D14 pretty well. If were talking BIG air then may as well go for the top dog. But for that money I would go with a Swiftech H220X instead, hanging that much mass and volume of metal off my MB does not appeal to me much.

EDIT: on the above, I would not advise getting 1600 RAM today, either 1866/8 or 2133/9 would be my recommendation. I think you can fine either flavor at 1.6V.

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

i would suggest getting 1866 memory, its just the sweet spot

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

this is my choice.
Many thanks for the help

Case
CORSAIR 230T COMPACT GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache

Motherboard
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, XFIRE/SLI

Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 980 - 1 DVI, 1 mHDMI, 3 mDP - 3D Vision Ready

1st Hard Disk
120GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 410MB/sW)

2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W CS SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

sorry,
memory with 1866 mhz.
ik you get 8 gb make sure you get cas ( latency ) 9 or lower. if you get 16 gb get cas 10 or lower

endeavour37a · Dec 24, 2014

Something to look over....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220-X 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($138.00 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($165.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($549.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1616.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 14:22 EST-0500

DDR3 1866 is the description of the memory speed in Data Rate in M/T (mega transfers per second)

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

that's 8 or 16 gb in total, not per stick.
and always buy 2 or 4 sticks of memory. not one or three

endeavour37a · Dec 24, 2014

stormflakes :

1866 is NOT the frequency in the I/O bus or memory clock. The I/O bus is 933Mhz for 1866 RAM.....

As a general rule of thumb, the JEDEC module name is 1/2 of the memory I/O bus clock, the I/O clock is 4 times the memory clock on the stick itself.

For example on DDR3 1866 memory:
Memory clock 233Mhz, Cycle time 4ms, Bus clock 933Mhz, Data Rate 1866MT/s, Name PC3-14900, Peak Transfer Rate 14933MB/s

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

forgot the link before:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/stormflakes/saved/6xvNnQ

i got carried away with the cpu and psu but other then that

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

stormflakes said:
sorry,
memory with 1866 mhz.
ik you get 8 gb make sure you get cas ( latency ) 9 or lower. if you get 16 gb get cas 10 or lower

1866 is NOT the frequency in the I/O bus or memory clock. The I/O bus is 933Mhz for 1866 RAM.....

i wasnt explaining what it was, i just clarified what i meant with 1866. if he looks in memory specs he sees 1600 mhz or 1866 mhz he knows that's what i'm talking about.
its better then your blabla that doesnt help him at all with his build

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P

it says in the blurb that the cas latency is programmable.
from 11 down to 6

is this BIOS stuff?

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

you can get lower cas if you go lower values: 1866 ( cas 10 for example ) 1600 ( cas 9 ) and so on.
it wont make any difference in the end

albosan · Dec 24, 2014

many thanks to all.
Am outa here. Gonna get me rig.

merry xmas

endeavour37a · Dec 24, 2014

stormflakes :

My blabla doesn't help him but your BS does? He came here asking for help, had some questions about building a rig, so perhaps we should try to give him truthful answers if we can. How could you assume he knows what your talking about? You say he sees "1866 mhz", well I don't? Show me where in any description of a memory stick it says "1866 mhz"?

A bit of truth and facts don't hurt anyone, now perhaps he knows 1866 is not the frequency memory operates at. Why is that confusing, how does that hurt anyone? He did not know what you meant by 1866 and you mislead him, I tried to inform him. I trust this person is intelligent enough understand, it's not all that hard to get.

"its better then your blabla that doesnt help him at all with his build", sorry for the long rant but this statement from you is what got me going.

stormflakes · Dec 24, 2014

his very first post said memory 1866mhz ...
rest, case, etc

i get that you want to inform people, but this is not the way to do it.

goodnight sir

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