looking to upgrade my gameing pc heed help

Goldfishgravy · Dec 26, 2014

im looking to upgrade my pc its has a lot of old components just wondering what i should upgrade first to improve my gaming all around especially fps

here are my specs now

- AMD Athlon FX-4130 Black Edition (QUAD CORE UNLOCKED CPU) 3.8 GHz (3.9 GHz TURBO CORE)
- MSI 760GM-P23(FX) AM3+ motherboard
- onboard AMD Radeon 3000HD graphics (VGA and DVI oututs)
- onboard 8 channel audio and GIGABIT ethernet
- 1 PC1 slot, 1 PCIe x1 and 1 PCIe x16 (video upgrade slot)
- 10 USB 2.0 ports
- 4GB DDR3 RAM, UPGRADEABLE TO 16GB
- 500GB 7200rpm SATA hard drive
- 24X DVD-RW drive

thanks in advance

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

Your Graphics card, your using integrated. To follow up to un-confuse bottlenecking -

There is ONLY a bottleneck with your processor if it is currently at or close to 100% usage, or if it is throttling at a way too high temperature. If both a no, there simply will be no bottleneck with the new card. If there is, you should upgrade that soon also.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

Definitely the video card before the CPU/motherboard. As a gamer you'll get much more mileage out of the GPU. R9 270X would be a good pair if you sick with the FX 4130, and upgrade the RAM to 8GB as most games nowadays are requiring more and more RAM. If you also can, you could upgrade your CPU to see quite a huge improvement as AMD's x1x0s are not good processors, the 6300 is better in every single way. But I'd upgrade in this manner: GPU, RAM, CPU (GPU and RAM will see you have a much bigger increase).

Goldfishgravy · Dec 26, 2014

thank you guys huge help! now can i put just about any kind of gpu with what i have now?

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

What's your PSU wattage and amps under 12V (listed on stocker on PSU)

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

Goldfishgravy :

With this setup you can but you have to take into consideration that the FX-4130 is a weak CPU and can bottleneck when you reach the high-end cards. You also have to make sure your PSU is adequate as well.

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

^

There is ONLY a bottleneck with your processor if it is currently at or close to 100% usage, or if it is throttling at a way too high temperature. If both a no, there simply will be no bottleneck with the new card. If there is, you should upgrade that soon also.

if the above is not currently met, it's not limiting the cards.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

If he upgrades his GPU to a high-end one of course there will be a bottleneck without a doubt. The FX-4130 is one of the weakest CPUs in the FX line-up.

Goldfishgravy · Dec 26, 2014

again thanks so much huge help!

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

Danoded :

Don't know if you can read but the processor will not limit the GPU unless it is under full usage, or throttling. Of course its weak, and it's cheap, but that doesn't mean straight away it bottlenecks.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

Danoded :

Don't know if you can read but the processor will not limit the GPU unless it is under full usage, or throttling. Of course its weak, and it's cheap, but that doesn't mean straight away it bottlenecks.

I sad it will undeniably be a bottleneck if he plans to get a high end GPU and it's pretty obvious.

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

most misused word on a forum. If you would like to argue the fact that simply pairing high end with low end serves as a bottleneck, you are completely misinformed. If the CPU is not at load, it is not limiting the card, how could or can it? Jut because it's 'low end', doesn't mean it automatically bottlenecks because it's not good enough.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

That's not the point. When playing demanding games the CPU will definitely limit the GPU. What I'm saying is that we can easily know beforehand that the CPU will limit the GPU in demanding games which I think this guy wants to play.

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

now you bring up 'demanding'. Of course. You never listed this as a factor, only the pairing. The only thing I can see is the changing of statements. He hasn't even listed any games also, and you can't 'guess' them.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

I based my statements on the hunch that he'll be playing demanding games. Don't know why you're acting put so much.

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

"With this setup you can but you have to take into consideration that the FX-4130 is a weak CPU and can bottleneck when you reach the high-end cards."

'demanding' was never incorporated to start with. The above only indicates that pairing 'can' cause a bottleneck.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

Well it obviously can in the right conditions can't it?

madmatt30 · Dec 26, 2014

I agree that bottleneck is misused - I prefer the term 'cpu limited'
& yes that cpu will limit anything faster than a gtx 660 or r9 270 without a doubt.
Its irrelevant as we need to know PSU specs ,budget available at this moment & his country/currency/buying options.

unknownofprob · Dec 26, 2014

I didn't word that as such properly, reading the whole thing again, we are essentially arguing the same thing here. The only difference is the lack of saying when it bottlenecks. The way it sounds to me reading it, is your saying the card will ALWAYS be limited, but it would appear you meant it to not.

Danoded · Dec 26, 2014

unknownofprob :

I'm sorry if I came across like that. I based my statements of the fact that he will be playing modern games and would most likely be limited in his FPS because of his CPU.

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