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Hi,

I have recently upgraded my system with a new graphics card, power supply and case. I am moving across the country soon and would love to use my old components to build my dad a new computer so we can game together. It would be at 1080p, although he doesn't really care about the graphics settings, so long as it says at decent FPS.

The parts I have for him are:
GPU: Sapphire HD7850 2GB OCed to 1050MHz Core
PSU: Antec VP-550W
Case: Basic ATX case, USB 3, 3 fans

I built my PC in the Ivy Bridge era so I am unfamiliar with todays processors/motherboards. I am trying to keep the cost down whilst not getting him complete junk. I was thinking along the lines of a non-K i5 perhaps? If the price difference is minimal for an overclockable chip and mobo, than that would be excellent. Essentially it needs to be something that when he upgrades the GPU in a couple of years to a mid range card he doesn't experience any bottlenecking.

Finally, as I'm in Australia, we have minimal part selection and heinous costs so the only shopping option is umart.com.au as I can pick it up from there. Thank-you hugely for any input, it would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: I am an Intel snob, so I would rather pay a bit more for an Intel setup. Also, I have a Windows 7 key already.
 
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Rafi Khan
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Please check the build below. The only downside I can see is that the motherboard has support of a maximum 16GB Ram, which is more than enough for a while now. I chose 8GB Ram for you which is a lot more than any game can use (4gb max). The processor is a low end Intel Core i3 but gaming is not a problem and it is much more efficient as well as powerful running single core programs. Intel vs AMD.... If you want something that's powerful but inefficient AMD. AMD is perfectly suited to gaming but unless you want an older FX 6300 I recommend the i3 I have stated. The newer AMD processors are starting to become more expensive...

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/7ZtB7P

Thanks!
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Rafi Khan

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I can help work on a build for you, I just need to know what your thoughts are on the budget so you can get the best bang for your buck :D

Thanks!
 
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The HD7850 is around a r7 260x to r9 270. The Antec VP550 should drive it fine.

I'd probably go AMD eg

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($96.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $390.51
 
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Thanks for the help! There's no definite budget, with that being said he certainly doesn't need an i7 Extreme! I just want to get him the best bang for the buck essentially, and have enough room to upgrade the GPU in a couple of years without needing a new processor/mobo. I was thinking no more than around ~$350 AUD on the processor/mobo combo if that sounds accurate?

Thanks again!
 
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Sorry I probably should have given more info. I am I bit of an Intel snob so I would rather spend a little extra to get an intel based system. Also, I have Win7 ready to go for him! If you have any suggestions for an intel based setup that would be awesome!

Thanks for your help!
 
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OK then try -

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $309.58
 
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Hi,

Please check the build below. The only downside I can see is that the motherboard has support of a maximum 16GB Ram, which is more than enough for a while now. I chose 8GB Ram for you which is a lot more than any game can use (4gb max). The processor is a low end Intel Core i3 but gaming is not a problem and it is much more efficient as well as powerful running single core programs. Intel vs AMD.... If you want something that's powerful but inefficient AMD. AMD is perfectly suited to gaming but unless you want an older FX 6300 I recommend the i3 I have stated. The newer AMD processors are starting to become more expensive...

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/7ZtB7P

Thanks!
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 66.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $389.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 14:56 EST+1100
 
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My only concern is that he plays a fair bit of Flight Simulator X, which is quite CPU intensive. Is there any chance you could recommend an i5 and mobo to suit just to get a gauge on the extra price? I completely agree that 4GB is not enough but 8GB is plenty.

Thanks for your help!
 
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Thanks for the suggestion but I do not recommend going for an i5 unless you get an unlocked i5 which adds a lot to the price and is unnecessary. Please read Post 7 below.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?272338-Flight-Sim-X-on-i3-Haswell

Thanks!
 
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Excellent, thanks for that, I will go for an i3 then, however only the 4160 and 4360 are available, which would you recommend?. Will the i3 bottleneck a mid tier GPU in ~2 years?

Thank you so much for your continued help, its greatly appreciated!
 
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Point taken. Maybe a good cpu would be an i3 then as you stated based on your budget. Just seems lately like gpus are making big strides, so who knows what will be out in 2 years.

If you are interested in amd, you might consider a decent board and an fx 8320 or 8350. Those should clock decently and put you into i3 to i5 territory.
 
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That is a valid point however Intel processors have more powerful cores and are more efficient in most programs. Most programs do not know how to use more than a few cores (including games) so single core performance is much more important.

 
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For right now. But your consoles are now running AMD cpu's. So I wonder if developers will begin to design for making use of multiple cores and if that will show up in pc gaming also as they port newer games over.

Either, way, whichever one will serve the needs I think. Both are good choices.
 
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