upgrading current rig to water cooling advice needed thanks in advanced

allegedsin

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current rig:
quipment: Case-Rosewill BLACKHAWK MID/
asus x12 bd drive
Motherboard:Gigabyte-GA-B85-HD3
CPU-Intel xeon 1230v3
Cooler-cooler master hyper 212 evo
PSU-EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750 B
RAM-Kingston HyperX 16 GB
(4x4GB)-1600 mhz
GPU- Evga GTX 760 4 GB
SSD-120 GB Samsung 840 pro- for OS
2-1 TB changing to another 4 TB
1-4 TB


now i am in the attic now since last summer and it fried my old amd PC so i switched to Intel this winter idle 34-40 c max temps with prim/encoding - 99% on all cores is 58 C
on air with the hyper evo 212
happy with it

so just preparing for summer wile i havve the money needs to be done

also my case is taking a turn for the worse the mesh filter broke off cheaply made and the acrylic window cracked my own fault droped a sledge hammer on it when i fell just the panel not PC thankfully

so anyway here is what i was thinking

ram cooler-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DUKPN2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

gpu cooler-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NC05KFK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
with
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ITTFNW4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

cpu cooler-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L0YLK2M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

the case that will fit all this-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DSF8JHU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A38W9D6A3H26A7

for the hell of it-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007EV9F2W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2F13KK758WMXQ

what do u think is this all compatible?

i wan the 120 mm water cooler on the 2nd layer of the hard drive cages to the gpu

then 140 mm on the rear for cpu and will use my fans in my current pc case

this should work for silence due to the cases
sound dampening material
and for the ram cpu and gpu to be nice and cold for summer

or is there something better
i do have a budget 500$ which is why i went for this since it fits the bill

also if you can just estimate what would my temps be like with this setup compared to the temps i gave of the current setup

 
Here is what I recommend, go for the real deal. You'll be happier with the temps and about the same cost. You can add radiators and GPUs as you see fit. The AIO coolers are OK, but a high end air cooler is about as effective.

I'd take a look at this page, I def can recommend the XSPC and Alphacool kits. I just think with the money you're investing may as well get something vastly superior to air cooling.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/complete-kits?dir=asc&limit=30&order=price&p=2
 

allegedsin

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thanks for the fast reply
now i have never done my own liquid cooling solution only tired the closed loop all in one
so i have no idea what to get

can you give amazon links that i should get i looked it up and seen the kits but which one would be for me
and
al i found was
http://www.amazon.com/XSPC-RayStorm-AX240-Water-Cooling/dp/B00DWXQKLK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420016256&sr=8-3&keywords=alphacool+watercooling+kit

but i do not think it would work with the kraken g10 for my gpu

are they easy to put together since i have never done it
kinda stayed clear from this because i simply am afraid that the hose would leak so never attempted this

also if i did do this custom cooler
what would my temps be a guess is fine
no over clock is possible so
and as i said 34-40 idle 58 max air

closed loop in the 20 s ?

custom in the teens or no ?
 
Well, perhaps I was wrong, maybe you aren't ready. I was just thinking value for your money.

AIO kits you can be looking at mid 30s Celcius for idle temps. Load could go up to 50Cor more. About the same as air cooling. GPUs will be higher. Count on idle temps in the 40-50s. Load really depenmds on your GPU, but for a midrange card like the 760 prolly around 60-70s load.

You aren't going to get sub ambient temps for water cooling. My FX 8320 is currently idling at 22C. I know that isn't correct because the room is at 22C. But I would guess its actually idling about 30C. I have one monitor on one GPU and two on the other. I'm getting 38C on the one and 48C on the other.

Loaded with 3Dmark Fire strike I have seen the main GPU edge up to 70C. Under load my CPU goes to 40C.

So you get your AIO cooler for your GPU and CPU. Then you decide its mediocre. Then what? How about a second GPU down the road? That's what the flexibility of the open loop gives you. I've changed my GPUs a few times and added one to the loop, I've also upgraded the CPU a couple of times. Also added a second 120mm rad.

I started with the XSPC kit with a 240 rad. I've added components over time. Its kind of like tattoos, once you get started you may just go crazy.

First check this link:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2007/08/22/watercooling_101/1

Of course leaks are a possibility, and quite frankly when first starting an eventuality. We build loops outside the case first. After moving everything inside the case, we use a jumper to engage the PSU with out applying electricity to the components, just to run the pump. After finding leaks, tighten up the fittings and then leak test for 24 hours with towels and rags around the fittings. Once everything looks good and tight, then you can put the PSU in the case and fire up the components.

Of course also don't use any additives or any other junk when first testing. Distilled and de-ionized water will not conduct electricity with no ions to carry the current. It will however still corrode components if left to dry. If it does happen, clean components with Isopropyl alcohol, 91% is good. Also have a fan at the ready to dry up any residual water.


Its a worthy endeavor and you are right to be cautious. But its also very rewarding to build your own loop and know that expandibility is only limited by your imagination. And wallet.
GL
 

allegedsin

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wow thanks for all the info
and yeah that looks awesome but cant do that yet i think i will look into when i go to build a htpc just to try it out see if its good and get a handle on that type of setup then maybe put it into my main rig

hmm not planning to upgrade gpu for a long time or anything besides replacing hdds and fans
i am happy with the cpu and gpu

also why does gpu become hotter with water cooling?
mine is way less then that on air.
29-31 C idle max is 40-57 c while encoding 1080 p videos or playing games like bf4 in near ultra settings with v sync on etc
weird so water cooling the gpu looks like a bad idea.

and i do not ever over clock or anything like that i stay @ stock setting
so i was thinking it would be
cpu in teens to 20 c s
gpu at least 10 c less

or is this just not possible yet

so it seems like water cooling is a bad idea considering how close the temps are what is the benefit besides a couple C off anything?

sorry for all the questions never did water cooling before always air so new to me recommended by a friend

so should i just stick with current build or ?