Please review my 4790k gaming build (Updated build)

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Hello,

I was wondering if the community could take a look at my build and provide any comments you might have. This is primarily a gaming build with some video editing and heavy multitasking:

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MDdTVn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MDdTVn/by_merchant/

CPU: *Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.00 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($424.06 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: *Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($594.34 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($789.84 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($789.84 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: *Seagate 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($191.97 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($224.00 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($224.00 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Classified K|NGP|N Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($998.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Classified K|NGP|N Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($998.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: *Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($486.00 @ shopRBC)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($175.25 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $6226.24

The price is a bit steep, but I would like to get a high-end replacement for my current system which has served me well but is coming towards its end. I will annotate some of the above.

CPU: Not interested in Broadwell unlocked desktop whenever it comes out, Intel don't seem too keen on it and Skylake is coming out right after it, although I have the LGA 1150/Z97 setup for it if anything spectacular comes out in Broadwell. Skylake is too far out and if you keep on waiting for the next thing, well, you know. Plus I'm not sure how much of an upgrade they will be. Some say Cannonlake will be the good one, who knows. Haswell-E doesn't seem to be much of a gaming CPU even though the 5960X has some very good performance overall. The 4790k/Devil's Canyon seems fairly well reviewed (excepting some complaints about high temperatures that might be more about the user than the hardware) and is a nice price point. I'll be looking to overclock it but nothing exotic, fan and Corsair H100i probably.

Motherboard: A bit of overkill and it has gotten some dicey reviews but you can always RMA it. I like its 2x16 PCIe for my dual-GPU setup - if I were to go for Haswell-E I'd go for the 5820K which drops the PCIe lanes down to 28, not sure how much of a difference that makes but it isn't a better gaming CPU and has a higher TDP. Also, I'm not interested in DD4. Is there a better Z97 alternative? ASUS maybe?

RAM: I'm thinking about dropping down to 16GB and seeing how it works, but then you have to get 2x8 if you want to upgrade later and its better to do 4x4 or 4x8, so I might just stick with 32. I am a little bit concerned about the voltages on the Corsair Dominator Platinum not matching the CPU/mobo even though they nominally go together, I might try something else but I'm not sure what. I don't know how much stress the CPU/GPU will put on the RAM, I am using a 2700k and dual 580's in SLI with 16GB of RAM and it works fine, so I don't know if I'd need to upgrade to 32GB or not.

HDs: I do a lot of gaming (and like to keep the games loaded even when I'm not playing them) so I'll space out the games and OS across the two SSDs. I'm not sure about the hybrid, if it has any value if you aren't using it as your boot drive, I might drop it. The other two WD Caviars are fairly self-explanatory, generally reliable I think, they've worked well in the past. Maybe throw in a WD Velociraptor, maybe not. 2TB's of SSD should be more than enough for the OS and games and then a few apps to load quickly. No RAID.

GPU: I have a dual-GPU SLI setup right now and really like it (despite Ubisoft screwing up SLI in their games recently) so I'm going to stick with that. I might go for a higher-binned model of the 780 Ti, but otherwise I don't see any point in going for a 980, Titan, Titan Black, Titan X/Y/Z. the 780 Ti's are a good price and have excellent reviews and numbers. I usually only game on a single monitor so even the dual-GPU is a bit of overkill. While I am not worried about the 3GB of VRAM going forward for the next 3-4 years, should I be?

PSU: Maybe a bit of overkill again, I could very easily drop down to the Corsair AX1200i, what do you guys think, for this setup, some light OC'ing of the CPU and GPU?

Windows: Obviously not Windows 8.1 (sorry to those who like it, but no). Actually, I already have Win7x64Pro, could I use it on the new system, are you allowed to do that?

I haven't selected a case yet, though it will probably be a larger Corsair though I like some of the HAX designs, I don't need a monitor or any of that stuff.

What do you guys think? Any fat that can be trimmed, or better value for money? I am looking for high performance for the next few years, but do you think the build will go together well?

Thanks.
 

Jeff Baffalo

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Build seems fine but 32gb ram is way more than needed. 16gb should be fine. You also have a huge amount of storage capacity, it seems like you want to use this computer for like 10 years or something. if you want the ssd as a boot drive most people don't even go past 128gb. You have a total of 10tb of storage! I don't know what you do but that would take me years and years to use.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($229.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($549.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($549.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($150.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($150.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($150.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($629.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($629.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($158.34 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Total: $4269.11
 

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You might be right, the 980's have 4GB of VRAM but fewer transistors yet a higher base clock. Plus they are less expensive (or at least they can be, depending on which model you choose). I'm not sure, the 780 Ti's get higher performance reviews and have stood up well against all comers. I'll take a closer look at that.
 

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You are right, it is a lot of HD space, but I found that I was running out of space on my SSD's, I may have overdone it, I'll add up my games and, er, other media, and see what I think I really need. Any thoughts on the hybrid?
 

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I probably won't go for a CD drive at all. I wouldn't drop down to 850W, I don't think I'd be comfortable going that low. Why downgrade to 5900RPM HD's, the 7200's aren't that much more expensive. I'm going to take a closer look at the ASUS boards to see which is really better. The RAM looks interesting, I'll have to look at the QVL for the mobo I eventually select to see which work best with it.
 

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Updated build: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/g37Jqs

- Can probably drop Win7x64Pro (-175) - can I reuse my license?
- Still don't have a case, will work on that, could recycle my current Corsair 800D actually
- Will stick with mobo/RAM combo until a better aligned combination comes up
- I'll have to check it but it probably can now drop down to the AX1200i (-100)

Thanks for your help, you've already helped me shave 1000 off it, I could get this baby down below 5k :)
 

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even if you SLI, and dropped the PSU down to the 1200, its more than what you need.
in fact, a majority of what you have in terms of HDD is too much. if you think you will need all 14TB of data space, then more power to you, but if you dont plan on storing hundreds of movies worth of HDD space, then you could probably reduce HDD amounts.
 

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Unfortunately I do need the space, I'm already using a full 16TB and that's with many games uninstalled. I'll look into dropping the PSU down further.
 

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you must have thousands of games. i could literraly, install every game that i have ever owned, plus the ones i already have installed and take up less than 2 tb. this is even with large games like ffxiv, ffxi, bf3, bf4, cod mw, cod aw, war thunder, arma 2, arma 3, dayz SA, etc. in fact, i have all of those games installed on a 500gig HDD at this moment, plus other smaller ones like counterstrike, this war of mine, and other size comparable games
 

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Hehe, not thousands, about 100, but when you put them together with mods/addons (like Skyrim graphics and all that) and other media it does add up, and game sizes are only increasing, not to mention media files in general. 2TB might be pushing it though, I'll look at 1.5 or maybe a hybrid for the 2nd HD.
 


PSU - A quality 850w PSU will leave you 200+ watts overhead for upgrades and expansion (while at full load) with a pair of GTX 980s in SLI. That is a lot of extra overhead... Going with anything larger is counter productive in regards to efficiency and budget spend.

HD - Since you have an SSD in the mix doing the majority of your workload (the OS), you don't need "performance" oriented spindle drives. If your OS was on a HD, then sure... maybe look toward the WD Black, but it just isn't needed in an SSD + HD setup.

MB - Either the ASUS or Gigabyte board would be fine. It is just that the Gigabyte doesn't really offer you anything you will utilize and is double the cost...
 

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hmmm. i know that one of the largest games that i have (FFXI), with addons, expansions etc. for the past 10+ years is near 20gb, and cod aw, at 55. even if i installed a 20gb game 50 times, i would only be using up 1tb. if i installed it 100 times, i would only be using 2 tb. even if it were a 55gb game, well...you can tell the math wont add up to 14 tb.

cod aw says that it needs 55 gb...installing it 18 times would use roughly 1tb. 14tb, i would be able to install it 252 times minus 5 to allow for windows and other general programs.

cod installed 100 times (based on how many games you said you have, and cod being one of the largest hdd required games) would only take around 5tb..and that is assuming that every game you have is around 55tb with addons/mods, etc.

i will still stand on the 14tb not being needed and almost would have to say that listing that much hdd is just a troll for epeen status.

the amount of HDD that you are wanting, although is your choice, (whether you need it or not, im still skeptical), would save you so much money that you could go with gtx 980s in sli and still save a ton more money.
 

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PSU - I'll look to downgrade the PSU, probably the AX860i.

HD - Fair enough, you are probably right, if it's just for storage I can downgrade to the 5900RPM as long as they are reliable.

MB - That was what I was concerned about with the mobo. I've had lots and lots of trouble with them in the past, including my current machine, so I absolutely want to try and get the best possible quality one to try and reduce the odds of another failure, but the one I selected will be underutilised so I'll try and find a more efficient option.
 

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In the above I mentioned both video editing and other media. Modern mid-level compressed bluray videos can easily run at 7-12GB, with topline ones at 40+GB, not to mention 3D videos. Video editing takes up a lot of space as well, uncompressed videos of 30+ minutes at a high quality run well over 1TB and that is real disk space that needs to be there for the operations even though you'll recompress it later on. Videos of 1hr or longer, which many are, can run north of 3TB while in operation, and this presumes you aren't using the disk space for anything else.

My Steam games on their own are 1TB, plus Origin games and games from CD's like FSX with graphics package addons. X-Plane is even larger with 80GB of total files for the whole world. Skyrim graphics mods can run north of 50GB. Even 4-5 years ago the biggest games easily went north of 30GB (Age of Conan), plus poor PC ports like SWTFU (29GB), plus generated files from actually playing the games takes up even more space (Guild Wars).

I've already dropped the 3rd HDD, the hybrid, I put it in there to get comments on it, but it probably is not necessary, so it is down to 10TB. The only alternative would be USB 3.0 10 gb/s (vs 6 gb/s eSATA) EHD's but they can cost twice as much as a 7200rpm internal platter.

I don't know what to tell you, it takes the space that it takes. I'm sorry if you think that's bragging.

Changed the PSU, still researching the mobo/RAM combo, dropped Windows since I can recycle my current install, hopefully, MS seem to let you get away with it when you change the mobo if you call and explain, or if it's old enough they won't always catch it: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/f8GgK8. Thank you for all of the comments, we've shaved 2k off the price! :)