r9 270 getting battlenecked by athlon x4 740?

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

i recently bought a new gpu for the rig at my gf's house. but when i play bf4 the cpu gets 100% used and the gpu stays at 10 to 20% of use.

is the card being bottlenecked? if so what are your thought which cpu i should upgrade?
is the AMD AMD A10-7850K worth it or should i upgrade the mobo to?

Math Geek · Dec 31, 2014

bf4 multiplayer is cpu dependent and will choke the life out of any cpu you throw at it. it's not your system's fault but really bad optimization from the game developer.

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

but on my r9 280x with an AMD FX-8320 it runs fine. i just dont want to upgrade the fm2+ mobo

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

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because its the rig at my gf's house. i just wanted to know if it is worth it that i buy the amd a10-7850.
i dont really want to upgrade the mobo to.

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

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Vdries :

If you want good performance in any game you might want to play then you might want to go for an Intel option my friend. Just saying you will be happier that way.

which one would you suggenst then? i never really looked at intel cause of the price

would a low i5 be enough for a while?

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

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You're right, it just suck that I have the fm2+ mobo And to upgrade for an Intel mobo :/

RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

You could upgrade to an Athlon X4 860k if your motherboard is FM2+.

cmi86 · Dec 31, 2014

Yes, even a low end locked i5 will be a lot faster than the 740. Pair it with a cheap H97 board for compatibility with intels next generation of "broadwell" cpu's and you have a good upgrade path when the time comes.

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

I'm surprised at the amount of bottleneck you are showing. And 740 isn't THAT weak and the 270 isn't that great of a GPU :s what res and graphics settings are you playing?http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-10.html

This shows CPU usage in online multiplayer... Even low end CPU like 4170 which is probably a bit stronger than yours show playable frames on ultra...

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

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is an i3 good for the future?

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

coops1 :

i play at 1080p and tried all the settings and mantle but didn't helped :/

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

Depends what you want from the i3 - it'll pair up nicely with a 270 and offer a decent upgrade path, but struggles on very high setting of some modern games which are able to take advantage of a lot of cores. - if you want something to last a few years without upgrade, get an i5, if you want something good now with upgrade path, get an i3... If you want something cheap but still capable, get an unlocked athlon and overclock it.

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

Also, I'm not disputing the bottleneck... Just surpirsed as bf4 isn't particularly demanding in its lower settings- I play 1050p low settings on a 5800k stock igpu and its playable online (just about

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RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

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Is that so...

Battlefield 4 ASUS GTX 770 DirectCU II AMD x4 860K 8GB RAM -

OP commented: " Compared to my Intel i5/GTX 770 i did not notice much of a difference in FPS. I think this is a great bang for your buck combo"

Or just google Athlon X4 860k and you'll find the game is very playable with that CPU.

Your Phenom II X4 955 isn't as powerful as the 860k with four steamroller cores.

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

Just out of interest, what was the difference on frame rates between your phenom and i5?

RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

If you actually read the description and comments you would see the lag is from the screen recorder program.

Also that chart is wrong in a few cases. Considering the 860k competes with the i3 haswell it should be faster than a Phenom X4 955.

Vdries · Dec 31, 2014

coops1 :

so in my eyes a new mobo with an i5 would be the cheapest for the future i think. because if i upgrade now to a a10-7850k and buy a new gpu over a couple years again it will be bottlenecked again..

RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

You're relying on benchmarks rather than looking at real world gameplay and experiences. You just said a few posts above

" Athlon LOL and then still have a major bottleneck. FM2+ cannot properly support a GPU the caliber of the R9 270 nor can FM2+ runs any CPU intensive games with performance that most PC gamers consider acceptable ".

When clearly this isn't the case as any 860k owner will tell you.

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

So you're saying that the hierarchy chart is entirely correct? That's interesting, because my fx 6300 is a tier below those CPUs (same tier as the athlons) and it maxes bf4 with ease. I think you have a fair few of your facts mixed up, but let's not hijack the thread too much.

Op, I would say you'd be best off with an i5 if you can afford it, though you will then be bottlenecked by your GPU on many games haha. An i3 will match up nicely with your GPU, but both GPU and CPU would need to be upgraded in the future it keep competitive. An unlocked athlon over clocked would be the cheapest solution to your bottleneck no matter what others say, but lacks upgradabilityy.

RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

^Agreed.

RazerZ · Dec 31, 2014

Sounds good to me. And their chart isn't perfect, it has been revised before.

LookItsRain · Dec 31, 2014

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The 860k is the best option for fm2+ and will keep up with i3s in games that use 4 threads. Remember, the 860k is steamroller, not piledriver.

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,review-33007-7.html - Athlon II with a fairly mild overclock keeps up. bearing in mind, thats a 750k (trinity) not steamroller. Also take into consideration that the athlon in 30% cheaper.

LookItsRain · Dec 31, 2014

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Wrong, i have an i3 system with an r9 270x. My friend has a fx 6100 at stock clocks with a 7870 near my mhz(r9 270x is a bit better than a 7870). Our fps are within 10% in all of our games, including minimum frames, with titles that range from Arma II to shadow of mordor(we family share steam libraries). The amount of misinformation and fanboyism you keep posting needs to stop.

AMD will not suffer bottlenecks in most games until you get into highend cards, such as a 780, 290 or above.
Even with sli gtx 770, the fps difference is pretty much not noticeable or hitting vsync anyways, but bioshock for some reason.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=1261

coops1 · Dec 31, 2014

I'd agree, the pentium is an awesome CPU for the money, BUT the OP would have to swap his motherboard to use a pentium (you can't drop an intel CPU into an fm2+ socket). This would decrease the value proposition of a pentium significantly. However, a 750k/760k/860k could be dropped in and overclocked, giving performance almost at i3 level for a fraction of the price of changing to i3 or pentium. Hence my recommendation of the OP buying an athlon II if on a tight budget, as we both now agree that it gives performance almost as god as an i3. Obviosuly an i3 will both perform better and is

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