APU questions about drivers and low performance of intergrated graphics issue

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hello guys!i just made a new apu budget build with an a8 6600 k series apu and an ASUS AE55BM-E mobo and ram G.SKILL F3-12800CL10S 8gb...the problem is that i have downloaded a lot of drivers and i havent still found out why the windows rating on graphics performance is 4.5 instead of 6.7..My first question is how many drivers i must download for mobo chipset and the intergrated graphics chipset on an apu build so this thing is going to work as it must..my second question is what did i do wrong and i havent found the sollution in my problem yet? i have downloaded 1 million chipset and catalyst drivers and nothing made my build work corectly..i have formatted and tried another drivers too but still no luck.. thanks for watching my post!
 

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Catalyst Control Center (ccc) should be all you need from amd, and your MOBO should come with a Driver DVD in the packaging, if not go on the manufacturer website and look for it.
 

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yes but i see that the driver for the graphics card is called catalyst control center.chipset driver is also called catalyst control center.the other problem i have is that the mobo CD has only chipset driver and at asus site i see a VGA driver that i cant download...any help ?
 

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What do you mean have you got a 8gb stick of ram instead of 2-4gb sticks?

If so this won't help your apu for a apu to get best performance you need 2sticks of low latency 2133 MHz ram


Also get the GPU drivers from here if they are not already installed that is
 

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this is the ram G.SKILL F3-12800CL10S. can u check it and tell me? this is 1600 mhz 10 latency i think..but the system shows me that something is not working as it must...i get graphics performace on windows 7 4.5 instead of 6.7 and i know that rating because i have made the same build with the only difference to be 2 g skill ripjaws rams 2x4 gb 1600 mhz. and as i remember i had same problem with the drivers and the rating too :/
 

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when i go to device manager it doesnt show me nothing meening that i have my drivers on and everything works fine.it shows me the hd 8750d intergrated graphics card also...but the system works like some driver is missing...what is the WER?
 

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can u check the mobo?it says that it has intergrated graphics hd 7000/8000..what is that even mean? if i connect a cpu without an onboard graphics card what will it show to me as a graphics card?
 

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yes but again this rating isnt very low?
 
The 7*** series graphics were the older fm2 trinity chips.the 8*** graphics on the newer Richland ones .
There is no onboard graphics on these motherboards - the graphics are embedded on the CPU itself.
Did your other build run exactly the same CPU??
 

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yes exactly the same cpu AND mobo..if its the ram what should i do?
cpuz NB frequency 1795.1 mhz
DRAM frequency 664.8 mhz
FSB dram 3:20
CL 9.0
TRCD 9
TRP 10
TRAS 24
TRC 33
 

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thanks a lot my friend i will try it and send you! can you please also send me the drivers that i have to download exactly about chipset, vga , and mobo?i will format because i have installed a lot of drivers and thats bad :p
 
You shouldn't need to reformat mate - newer drivers will overwrite old - its impossible to run more than one driver for the same device.
If you open control panel/device manager & no yellow exclamation marks are showing its fine.

Generally with amd boards - install all drivers from your motherboard disk.
Then download the latest catalyst control centre ,run it on the auto option.
That will update any old drivers to latest versions.
 

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ok! i will send you when i try all of these ! thanks a lot for your time!
 

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I love where the apu is going, but I don't think you are ever going to see the performance you are expecting. The apus use memory directly from your DDR3 system memory, and DDR3 is a serious drawback, I doubt DDR4 will even be able to compare to GDDR5(for graphics), they are designed for different applications.

GDDR5 Is designed to read and write at the same time, thus it can sustain high bandwidth, which is great for graphics rendering. DDR3 can only either read or write, but it has low write/read latency's. The point being they work very well for the processor they were designed to work with, not so well the other way around.

I don't understand why they didn't just solder on some dedicated GDDR5 to the motherboard.

Shared graphics is also a great idea, but again, the DDR3 from your apu is most likely going to hurt your performance as opposed to a just using a dedicated card by itself.
 

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im not expecting this build to be the best in gaming or whatever....i had built the same pc 2 months ago and i know that the rating in windows is 6.7.thats the rating that i want to catch with this pc too, not more not less.i wont have a problem if in a good game it will lag fps or whatever...i know how good it can be and where are its limits....i just did smthing wrong with this that i couldnt find what was that i had forgot...its not about poor performance its about pc is not working right...and as i said before i builted a budget pc...ofc i know that with a dedicated card everything is better and much easier but the guy who told me to help him couldnt afford that so i had to find the best solution with low money...
 


The APU's are probably one of the smartest moves amd have ever made.
They cant compete high end with the fx chips against intel,so they go for the lower end ,integrated chipsets with decent performance on the cpu & gpu front but nothing exciting - they pretty much have that market sector sewn up now imo.
Youll never see integrated ddr4/5 memory on the motherboards,the way it is now people have a nice choice price/preformance ratio for their actual needs & save everyone money - why pair a board with ddr5 ram with a low end a4/a6 apu at a massively expensive cost ( integrated ram motherboards would be 2-3 x as expensive at least) when you can throw a quad setup together for just over $100 the way it is.
with an a4 your betting going 133 ram /1600 at the max.
with the a8/10 chips the choice is down to the buyer whether they spend a little more on 1866/2133/2400 to push that extra graphics performance.
Ill liken AMD's fx range to the cheap american muscle cars with big V8s that are cheap but at the expense of fuel costs & maintenance - you wouldnt use one for the 30minute journey into work,but theyre fine for decent journeys & will even give you a good day out on a track if thats your thing.
The APU range are their family saloon up to hot hatchback of the cpu world,a lot of different models with varying engine sizes & prices to suit everyone upto the boy racer who wants a bit of grunt but would get eaten alive by the big boys on the track.
Intel are the asian manufactured hot hatches & sports cars,hi-tec ,fast ,with performance to match the muscle cars,smaller engines though more highly tuned,lower fuel consumption but a much higher cost to buy in the first place.
 

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after a long time i did it on that pc and u where half right.!gaming grafics gone 6.5 from 4.5 on windows rating but the problem is that the graphics desktop performance for windows aero went only 4.9 and both supposed to go same rating...i downloaded drivermax and downloaded graphics driver from there too but the rating stayed the same :/
 

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i downloaded apus graphics drivers from drivermax but still rating was different to graphics from gaming graphics