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AwWeMmGEE

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my friend requested help from me to build a pc for him, so most probably there will not be any OC done. but i am stuck between these 2 CPUs for the build im getting, i can opt for a change in motherboard if it is within his budget

i stay in singapore, and the price is as follows

the 2 CPU(s)
1) Intel Pentium G3528 -$65
2) Intel i3-4150 - $121

the build;
Asus h87-plus -$141
Crucial Ballistix 1600mhz 4gx2 -$105
WD-1TB Blue - $70
MSI Gtx 760 Twin Frozr 2g ddr5 - $323
Seasonic M12ii 620w (Modular/non-modular) -$115/130
Windows 7 HomePrem 64bit $120
Case, any below $80
Samsung DVD-R- $21

Total : $1040(pentium build with cheapest options stated)

a <Z87/97> ATX series board would cost a minimum of $100 more,
a <h97> ATX series board would cost $43 more.(asus h97 plus)

I would like to ask if there will be any SIGNIFICANT difference between the 2 CPUs ?
Would it be wise to add in a < Samsung 840 evo (120gb)- $105 > just for OS ?
Any recommended motherboards to switch to ?
 
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Between an i3 and a G3258, there is a difference, most games which uses 4 cores or more will use the 4 threads of the i3, between an i5 and i7 there is less difference, not all the games know how to use 8 threads

This review should lighthing you a bit :
http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

For serious gaming, I would recommend at least an i3 4150 + H97 mobo, to avoid all BIOS upgrade issue, or the FX 6300/6350, which still have correct perfs in gaming
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Well I included the items you picked out, some cheaper than others but some upgrades too, Enjoy, Play around with PcPartsPicker too

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($80.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($280.66 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1035.91

Edit: Just read the part about being in singapore... don't know if the prices would be the same :p
 
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this build would cost around $1.8k in singapore !
i too would opt for a better system similar to this but his tight budget is tying him down, yes, its a gaming PC.

is it worth to opt for a gigabyte windforce R9 280 for $322 or 280x for $365 ?
 
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You do not have enough knowledge about cpu's then?

Games do make use of multithreading yes.
But the pentium and i3 are both dual cores.

Although i3 wth hyperthreading, would make 2 physical cores into 4 virtual cores.
Games do not make use of hyperthreading, so the i3 will run no better then a pentium ( 2 cores against 2 cores)
 
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Yes, I know the i3 is a dual core with hyperthreading. Do you think intel would put that much of a price difference between those two cpus for fun? Hyper Threading has always made a significant difference ever since it was introduced in the old pentium 4. Sure, the i3 is a dual core like the pentium g3528, but because it has four threads, the system will treat it like a quad core therefore improving performance in games optimised to run on quad core cpus.
 
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thought that games didnt support hyperthreading, but apparently they do. My fault :p
in that case the i3 is indeed much better
 
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Any game that scales beyond 2 threads inherently supports hyper-threading when run on an i3.

Any game that scales beyond 4 threads inherently supports hyper-threading when run on an i7.

The i3 tends to perform on par with an overclocked G3258 in gaming workloads.
 
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Hello

Between an i3 and a G3258, there is a difference, most games which uses 4 cores or more will use the 4 threads of the i3, between an i5 and i7 there is less difference, not all the games know how to use 8 threads

This review should lighthing you a bit :
http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

For serious gaming, I would recommend at least an i3 4150 + H97 mobo, to avoid all BIOS upgrade issue, or the FX 6300/6350, which still have correct perfs in gaming
 
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