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Computer info: I don't have the system specs for my computer but What I know is that I run with an antthlon II woth a am3+ chip set and I have a small water cooler (based on the resivoir and the radiator not needing more than a single mid size fan, exact size unsure) I'm not sure how old it is but it is rather old and is a closed loop system. Water never been replaced but has water. Have used both the cpu and cooling system since I got it a year ago perfectly fine and the previous owner has had no problems as well. I actualy just replaced the themal paste both a month ago and today and my problem still happens. I will give u the exact info on the parts when I get time to look at the computer again.

The problem: to make it simple the computer is running hot. It overheats to 90degrees befor my computer shuts off from my motherboards fail safe even on the bios screen. This happened when I was in the middle of world of warcraft. Befor the computer had started to play hot (50 degrees on idle) which was my first clue to buy a (good) backup fan. The fan hasn't arived yet but I will in 3 days and I would like to use my computer or at least cheese it until I get the new fan/heatsink. My bios said that my CPU fan is running at 3000 rooms which would be the pump itself. I also took the computer off of being overclocked and it still overheats to 90 degrees. When I touch the pumps tubes during this one tube is hot or warm and the other is ice cold. The resivoir is also cold but isn't as cold. Could this be the pump and if so is there a way I can fix it befor my new fan comes in so that I can use my computer until I replace the cooling system.

I would also like to mention I will also be replacing the CPU when I get the new cooling system because my old water cooler couldn't keep my phenom II black cool enough.
 
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I don't know if this is a cooling system made of individual parts or if it's an all in one cooler (self contained). If one tube is hot and the other is cold you either have a failed pump or something is blocked (like the radiator). If it's a cooling loop made of separate parts, you can try removing the works from the system so it's out of the pc case, leave the pump plugged to the power supply and try running it (NOT turning the pc on without a cooler on the cpu). Don't attempt to boot the system, unplug the power supply from the motherboard. Just use it or a power plug from another system to run the pump.

The idea is to disconnect the outlet cooling hose from the pump, leave the inlet hose attached and the reservoir full and see if...
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I don't know if this is a cooling system made of individual parts or if it's an all in one cooler (self contained). If one tube is hot and the other is cold you either have a failed pump or something is blocked (like the radiator). If it's a cooling loop made of separate parts, you can try removing the works from the system so it's out of the pc case, leave the pump plugged to the power supply and try running it (NOT turning the pc on without a cooler on the cpu). Don't attempt to boot the system, unplug the power supply from the motherboard. Just use it or a power plug from another system to run the pump.

The idea is to disconnect the outlet cooling hose from the pump, leave the inlet hose attached and the reservoir full and see if the pump pushes coolant through (into a bowl or some other container, again being careful not to get any coolant inside the pc case or on the components). Then at least you'll know if the coolant is flowing.

If the pump works, connect it to the radiator and leave the outlet hose from the radiator off to see if the pump is capable of pushing coolant through the radiator to determine if there's a clog there. It's a process of elimination to find out where the problem is, whether it's a weak/failed pump or a blockage in the system. Poor flow will cause your temps to go up like that.
 
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So i took apart one of the water cooler hozes and took the pump off the system. after that i started to blow through the tubes and barely anything came out. i then started it with the pump on to see if anything would come out and barely anything still. after all that i just unhooked all the hozes and emptied all the coolent out. i replaced it with tap water (however bad it is i dont plan on keeping it in the system long) and started it all up closing it all together and i seem to hear a steady flow of liquid going through the system. not 100% sure of this though. i will let it all dry off for now and try remounting the system. i would like to mention that i have been doing these tests by removing my cpu chip from the computer and starting the computer like that. if this could damage the system at all please let me know. the motherboard basically starts and then stops after a few second and then restarts without the cpu chip in.
 
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I'm not certain of the stress to components starting/stopping repeatedly like that, although it's likely to be far better than even briefly attempting to start the system with a cpu and no cooler. If the cooler is an old one the pump may be iffy. You mentioned removing hoses and things so I don't know if it's an all in one cooler (similar to a corsair h80) or if it's separate components.

It almost sounds like there was little to no coolant in the loop. Did much of anything come out? If it's not an all in one cooler, if it's able to be taken apart (serviceable) it should be flushed every so often to prevent things from getting clogged up around once a year or so. Given the fact it's old I might still be looking into a new pump and a proper cleaning/flushing.
 
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It's a closed loop system. It has the pasky cringe claps on it so I believe it's an all in one. There was plenty of coolent but a lot of particles in it. The bowl I put it in was almost half full. That fantastic sound of rushing water sounds though now. Just like when I first got the
Computer. Thanks for the help. Deffenetly needs to be retired. Well used machine to last a total of 8 years according to the previusrowner
 
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