Need help for gaming (increasing V-Ram on the AMD Radeon HD 8670D)

dan7933

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I can say myself that my PC has given me hell when it comes to playing games...

A bit about my PC:
My CPU is an AMD A10-6700 APU (3.7 Ghz quad core overclocked to 4.2 Ghz)
I have 8 GB of ram and juuuust under 1TB of HDD storage
My graphics card is an AMD Radeon HD 8670D with 768 MB of dedicated video ram... and this has been a big problem for me.

I get around 30 fps with every game... on super low. I can barely run Max-settings Team fortress 2... a game that my brother's laptop can even run.

I was told that my graphics card is sold with either 2GB or 4GB dedicated video memory, and I can increase it in the bios.

I went into my Bios, I have an Asus motherboard, and found out that it's Bios version 0307 (that's about as much as I can tell you I know about my bios...) and I found nothing to increase dedicated video memory.

Can someone help? If I could get it to be just above 1GB at least it won't be so shite all the time.
 
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Ok, there's your problem.

For APUs, you NEED dual channel, is a must have if you want gaming. Get a 8GB 1866MHz dual channel Kit, without it you won't be able to play games at decent resolutions and frame rates.

Or you could also buy a discrete GPU. The R7 250X/HD 7770 is quite cheap (less than $100) and it can do 1080p low settings gaming at around 35 fps depending on the game.

Brunostako

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APUs don't have a specific amount of dedicated RAM, that amount is dynamic. If you have few RAM, the video RAM will be small, if you have lots of RAM, the video ram will be big (i think 2GB is the max amount the system can reserve). The amount increase or decreases on demand.

The integrated GPU in the APUs benefit from high speed RAM, what speed is yours? If you have 1333MHz RAM, that may be the problem. Also, if you're in single o dual channel mode.
 

Brunostako

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Ok, there's your problem.

For APUs, you NEED dual channel, is a must have if you want gaming. Get a 8GB 1866MHz dual channel Kit, without it you won't be able to play games at decent resolutions and frame rates.

Or you could also buy a discrete GPU. The R7 250X/HD 7770 is quite cheap (less than $100) and it can do 1080p low settings gaming at around 35 fps depending on the game.
 
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dan7933

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If I get additional (or change out my old) RAM, will that increase my performance on it's own? Because that's what it's sounding like. Because I was preparing to get a new graphics card either way. Get both, I guess?
 

Brunostako

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Yes, "like magic".

If you can, get AMD certified RAM, like this kit: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-memory-r938g2130u1k. An AMD kit may not require a manual configuration.

But, If your motherboard supports XMP profiles, any XMP compatible RAM will do the job. Like this Kit: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl9d8gbsr. This will require a manual configuration in the BIOS, but is very easy to set.
 

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Awesome! Is it a big deal if I were to get ram and/or a graphics card that is not specifically an AMD? My mobo is from Asus (about as much as I can say at the moment) and the only amd parts I have are my CPU and graphics card. So if I were to get a ram and gpu upgrade, would they HAVE to be AMD? (Because I've found really good parts for an amazing price, and I'm wondering if it'll work)
 

Brunostako

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No, you don't need to upgrade your parts with more AMD stuff. The RAM can be from any brand and also the GPU, it can be from nVidia. Do you know what chipset your motherboard has? A55 and A58 chipsets only support AMP (AMD Memory Profiles, AMD certified memory uses this) and not XMP. A75, A78, A85X, A88X chipsets does support both AMP and XMP profiles.

The easiest way to improve your gaming performance, guarantied, is adding a discrete GPU. As i told you, the R7 250X is a cheap and great option, if you can spend a bit more, the R7 260X.
 

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Awesome, thanks for all your help! :D

 

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Hello, I am reluctant to find someone with literally the exact problem i have. Same processor ram and everything. If you did happen to find a fix please reply to this so i can know.
 

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Hey Bruno, I know this is an old thread but you seemed to help Dan out and you seem knowledgeable on the topic. I wonder if you could give me some advice? I have:

AMD A10-6700k APU with integrated HD 8670 graphics
16BG RAM @ 2133 speed

I upgraded from a slower cpu and ram, but my graphics are worse now than they were before. I must have a graphics configuration issue as my still graphics are VERY CLEAR, but my games are all choppy video. I don't know what the problem is.

Can you help maybe?

 

Brunostako

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Are you using a dual channel RAM kit?

Have you checked if your RAM is working at the rated speed (2133MHz)? Maybe you need to set the XMP profile manually to make it work at that speed.

What motherboard do you own?
 

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Bruno,
Yes, using dual channel 2x8GB
I have A88XM-A mobo.

I have screenshots of my BIOS, and i also have a CPU-Z screenshot of my memory config. But not sure how to post them here.

 

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Cpu-z shows:
DRAM Freq 1066.4 MHz
NB Freq 1799.6 MHz
DDR3
16GB
Dual
FSB DRAM: 3:32
CAS 9
RAS to CAS 11
RAS pre 11
Cyc time 31
Bank Cyc Time 53

--------[ AIDA64 Extreme ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version AIDA64 v5.30.3500
Benchmark Module 4.1.643-x64
Homepage http://www.aida64.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer
Generator
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7601.18939 (Win7 RTM)
Date 2015-09-25
Time 15:24


--------[ Memory ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Physical Memory:
Total 16326 MB
Used 5871 MB
Free 10455 MB
Utilization 36 %

Swap Space:
Total 32651 MB
Used 7390 MB
Free 25261 MB
Utilization 23 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 48977 MB
Used 13261 MB
Free 35716 MB
Utilization 27 %

Paging File:
Paging File C:\pagefile.sys
Current Size 16326 MB
Current / Peak Usage 464 MB / 464 MB
Utilization 3 %

Physical Address Extension (PAE):
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active Yes


What exactly do you want to see from AIDA ? More than this?
 

jevbrowser

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aaaah. i found it:
--------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ DIMM1: G Skill TridentX F3-2133C9-8GTX ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name G Skill TridentX F3-2133C9-8GTX
Serial Number None
Module Size 8 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage 1.5 V
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Normal (7.8 us)
DRAM Manufacturer G Skill

Memory Timings:
@ 666 MHz 10-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 33-174-4-10-5-5-20 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 666 MHz 9-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 33-174-4-10-5-5-20 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 609 MHz 8-8-8-22 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-159-4-10-5-5-19 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 533 MHz 7-7-7-20 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-139-4-8-4-4-16 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 457 MHz 6-6-6-17 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-119-3-7-4-4-14 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 380 MHz 5-5-5-14 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 19-100-3-6-3-3-12 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)

Extreme Memory Profile v1.3:
Profile Name Enthusiast (Certified)
Memory Speed DDR3-2133 (1066 MHz)
Voltage 1.60 V (Memory Controller: 1.10 V)
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.9 us
Recommended DIMMs Per Channel 4
@ 1067 MHz 9-11-11-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 42-278-3-6-16-9-9-25-7 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW-WCL)

Extreme Memory Profile v1.3:
Profile Name Extreme
Memory Speed DDR3-2133 (1066 MHz)
Voltage 1.60 V (Memory Controller: 1.10 V)
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.8 us
Recommended DIMMs Per Channel 4
@ 1066 MHz 9-11-11-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 42-278-2-6-16-8-8-25-7 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW-WCL)

Memory Module Features:
Auto Self Refresh (ASR) Supported
DLL-Off Mode Supported
Extended Temperature Range Supported
Extended Temperature 1X Refresh Rate Not Supported
On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout (ODTS) Not Supported
Partial Array Self Refresh (PASR) Not Supported
RZQ/6 Supported
RZQ/7 Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name G.Skill International Enterprise
Product Information http://en.gskill.com/en/series/desktop-memory

[ DIMM2: G Skill TridentX F3-2133C9-8GTX ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name G Skill TridentX F3-2133C9-8GTX
Serial Number None
Module Size 8 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage 1.5 V
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Normal (7.8 us)
DRAM Manufacturer G Skill

Memory Timings:
@ 666 MHz 10-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 33-174-4-10-5-5-20 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 666 MHz 9-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 33-174-4-10-5-5-20 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 609 MHz 8-8-8-22 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-159-4-10-5-5-19 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 533 MHz 7-7-7-20 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-139-4-8-4-4-16 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 457 MHz 6-6-6-17 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-119-3-7-4-4-14 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)
@ 380 MHz 5-5-5-14 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 19-100-3-6-3-3-12 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW)

Extreme Memory Profile v1.3:
Profile Name Enthusiast (Certified)
Memory Speed DDR3-2133 (1066 MHz)
Voltage 1.60 V (Memory Controller: 1.10 V)
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.9 us
Recommended DIMMs Per Channel 4
@ 1067 MHz 9-11-11-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 42-278-3-6-16-9-9-25-7 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW-WCL)

Extreme Memory Profile v1.3:
Profile Name Extreme
Memory Speed DDR3-2133 (1066 MHz)
Voltage 1.60 V (Memory Controller: 1.10 V)
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.8 us
Recommended DIMMs Per Channel 4
@ 1066 MHz 9-11-11-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 42-278-2-6-16-8-8-25-7 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP-FAW-WCL)

Memory Module Features:
Auto Self Refresh (ASR) Supported
DLL-Off Mode Supported
Extended Temperature Range Supported
Extended Temperature 1X Refresh Rate Not Supported
On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout (ODTS) Not Supported
Partial Array Self Refresh (PASR) Not Supported
RZQ/6 Supported
RZQ/7 Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name G.Skill International Enterprise
Product Information http://en.gskill.com/en/series/desktop-memory

Something is out of whack. Within the above report it shows both 2133 and 1333.

And CPU-Z shows the JDEC number as 667MHz and the XMP profile as 2133. Is it possible that my mobo does not support something to do with XMP mem profiles?