Upgrading from P6100 to Intel Core i5 or i7, perhaps adding a GPU if possible?

Cameleon75

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Hi,

first of all thank you in advance for your time and attention, your advice and your help. There's 3 parts in my request for help:
1) the simple questions
2) a bigger view (my view) on it
3) the CPU-Z report of the K72F

The simple questions:
What CPU should I get?
And will I need a separate GPU with that?
Is it even possible to add an GPU on this mainboard?
Or am I better of with a 2in1 CPU/GPU like the 560M (2cores/4threaded)?
Are there better options for the 560M? Keep in mind my budget of next to zero.
Can I improve my machine by adjusting something in the BIOS or other settings as it is now? For example is my memory used optimal or is it only used partially because of the 1333MHz memory vs. 1066 CPU?
Should I get new memory? I think I do but which do I buy? Think it depends on the other hardware in this topic as well. So perhaps you could enlighten me.

Explaining myself my way (which mostly is in al lot of words, but leaves less for the imagination thus less room for mistakes and 'bad' advice):
For the past 3 too 4 years I've been using my Asus K72F-TY116V happily. It's equipped with Intel H55 Motherboard , has 3GB installed (Hynix 2GB 1333 MHz (2Rx8) & 1 GB 1333MHz (1Rx8)) with 1238MB dedicated too the Intel HD Graphics.
Past year I ran into more and more lags and such. I do not feel there's need to buy a new laptop because this one is still upgradable. I will probably need to repost this request for help in several parts of the forum due to the fact my thread is about more then just one topic: Mainboard, CPU, GPU as well as memory.

I've had contact with Asus about it but I think they are only thinking about 'what's save for them' where I wish to go to the edge of it.

So first of all I have pasted a copy of the CPU-Z report about the current state below. All necessary information for you about the machine is in there and easily to find as most of you must know.

So, I have concluded the H55 supports up to 1333MHz memory, however the P6100 and most rPGA 988A (or Socket G1) CPU's only go up to 1066MHz. So the memory is being downclocked. Another problem is the build in Graphics. I think I'm stuck with only a certain amount of types of CPU's in which the i5 560M was shown best of possibilities according to comparison by 'cpuboss'. At least the best of the i3's and i5's. One would say the 580M should be the best, but apparently it isn't according too benchmarks. Secondly I noticed in CPU-Z report the H55 is able to support 16GB of memory, while many hours of previous research made me conclude it will only go up too 8GB's. However, since this isn't a big issue but if anyone knows the answer... The report also shows 'room for 2 more memory slots. So perhaps that's why. I have opened the machine and never noticed more then 2 slots, so perhaps it's only theoretical.
Anywahooo, if it would be possible I would think it would be better to have a separate GPU instead of a 'build in'/ dedicated memory. Or am I mistaken?

So, on my own I've decided that i5 560M is the best I can do without having to ask around. But I want bigger and better. Just without spending really any money. Mostly because that's the thing I am even more short of then speed of my laptop.

So what do I use it for. I really like to surf the web finding out all sorts of things. Mostly technical and mostly from youtube or forums like this one. The only reason I don't go beyond 20 or 30 open windows is well, it just won't work that well. Besides the screen of the laptop half of the time i've added an external screen (Samsung 24" SyncMaster 2443BW 1920x1200) so I can watch HD video's while surfing the web. Besides that I fool around with facebook a lot which I know asks a lot and I use Office programs and Adobe Reader a lot.

I'm a chaotic person so I only close things when, well... I forget to plug in the charger. But on most days the laptop stays on 24/7.

What I don't do is playing a lot of graphic games. However I feel that I really need to upgrade a good deal to make this machine work another 2 maybe 3 years without lags and stuff.

edit: Somehow I couldn't post the CPU-Z report. So I deleted it from the mainpost and will try again in answer.
 

Cameleon75

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Here's the CPU-Z report with all sytem details:


CPU-Z

Binaries
CPU-Z version 1.71.1.x64

Processors
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 2

APICs
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 4

Timers
ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
HPET timer 14.318 MHz
Perf timer 1.948 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz


Processors Information
Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 8)
Number of threads 2 (max 16)
Name Intel Pentium P6100
Codename Arrandale
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100 @ 2.00GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 989 rPGA (0x4)
CPUID 6.5.5
Extended CPUID 6.25
Core Stepping K0
Technology 32 nm
TDP Limit 25.0 Watts
Core Speed 931.1 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 7.0 x 133.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2394.3 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 3 MBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes


Turbo Mode not supported
Max turbo frequency 2000 MHz
Max non-turbo ratio 15x
Max turbo ratio 15x
Max efficiency ratio 7x
TDC Limit 25 Amps
Max bus number 255
Attached device PCI device at bus 255, device 2, function 1



Chipset
Northbridge Intel Havendale/Clarkdale Host Bridge rev. 18
Southbridge Intel HM55 rev. 06
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 3 GBytes
Channels Dual, (Symmetric)
Memory Frequency 532.1 MHz (4:16)
CAS# latency (CL) 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 60
Command Rate (CR) 1T

Memory SPD
DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR3
Module format SO-DIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Hyundai Electronics (AD000000000000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part number HMT125S6TFR8C-H9
Serial number 555143C0
Manufacturing date Week 21/Year 10
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz
JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-17-23 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR3
Module format SO-DIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Hyundai Electronics (AD000000000000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part number HMT112S6TFR8C-H9
Serial number 08233F45
Manufacturing date Week 36/Year 10
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 5.0-5-5-14-19 @ 380 MHz
JEDEC #2 6.0-6-6-17-23 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #3 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #4 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #5 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz


Monitoring
Mainboard Model K72F (0x000000FA - 0x000028F0)

LPCIO
Hardware Monitors
Hardware monitor ACPI
Temperature 0 48°C (118°F) [0xC8C] (THRM)
Temperature 1 n.a. (CPU)
Fan 1 2800 RPM [0xAF0] (CPU)

Hardware monitor Battery
Voltage 0 12.32 Volts [0x301C] (Current Voltage)
Capacity 0 72600 mWh [0x11B98] (Designed Capacity)
Capacity 1 58454 mWh [0xE456] (Full Charge Capacity)
Capacity 2 56958 mWh [0xDE7E] (Current Capacity)
Level 0 20 pc [0x50] (Wear Level)
Level 1 97 pc [0x61] (Charge Level)


PCI Devices
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x0044
Revision ID 0x18

Description VGA Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 2 (0x02), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x0046
Revision ID 0x18

Description Communication Device
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 22 (0x16), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B64
Revision ID 0x06

Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 26 (0x1A), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B3C
Revision ID 0x06

Description Multimedia device
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 27 (0x1B), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B56
Revision ID 0x06

Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 28 (0x1C), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B42
Revision ID 0x06

Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 28 (0x1C), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B44
Revision ID 0x06

Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 28 (0x1C), function 5 (0x05)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B4C
Revision ID 0x06

Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 29 (0x1D), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B34
Revision ID 0x06

Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 30 (0x1E), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2448
Revision ID 0xA6

Description PCI to ISA Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 31 (0x1F), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B09
Revision ID 0x06

Description Serial ATA Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 31 (0x1F), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B29
Revision ID 0x06

Description SMBus Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 31 (0x1F), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B30
Revision ID 0x06

Description Data Aquisition and Signal Processing Device
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 31 (0x1F), function 6 (0x06)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x3B32
Revision ID 0x06

Description Network Controller
Location bus 2 (0x02), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x168C
Model ID 0x002B
Revision ID 0x01

Description Ethernet Controller
Location bus 3 (0x03), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1969
Model ID 0x1063
Revision ID 0xC0

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2C62
Revision ID 0x05

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 0 (0x00), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2D01
Revision ID 0x05

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 2 (0x02), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2D10
Revision ID 0x05

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 2 (0x02), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2D11
Revision ID 0x05

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 2 (0x02), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2D12
Revision ID 0x05

Description Host Bridge
Location bus 255 (0xFF), device 2 (0x02), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x8086
Model ID 0x2D13
Revision ID 0x05


DMI
DMI BIOS
vendor American Megatrends Inc.
version K72F.211
date 02/22/2011
ROM size 2048 KB

DMI Baseboard
vendor ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
model K72F
revision 1.0
serial BSN12345678901234567

DMI System Enclosure
manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
chassis type Notebook
chassis serial CSN12345678901234567

DMI Processor
manufacturer Intel
model Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100 @ 2.00GH
clock speed 1999.0 MHz
FSB speed 133.0 MHz
multiplier 15.0x

DMI Port Connector
designation J1A1 (internal)
designation PS2Mouse (external)
port type Mouse Port
connector PS/2

DMI Port Connector
designation J1A1 (internal)
designation Keyboard (external)
port type Keyboard Port
connector PS/2

DMI Port Connector
designation J1A2A (internal)
designation Serial Port (external)
port type Serial Port 16550A
connector DB-9 male

DMI Port Connector
designation J1A2B (internal)
designation Video (external)
port type Video Port
connector DB-15 female

DMI Port Connector
designation J3A2 (internal)
designation HDMI (external)
port type Video Port

DMI Port Connector
designation J3A3 (internal)
designation USB1 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J3A3 (internal)
designation USB2 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J3A3 (internal)
designation USB3 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J3A3 (internal)
designation USB4 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4A1 (internal)
designation USB5 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4A1 (internal)
designation USB6 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4A1 (internal)
designation LAN (external)
port type Network Port
connector RJ-45

DMI Port Connector
designation J5A1 (internal)
designation Motherboard DP (external)

DMI Port Connector
designation J8J1 (internal)
designation SATA Port 0 Direct Connect (external)

DMI Port Connector
designation J7J1 (internal)
designation eSATA Port 4 (external)

DMI Port Connector
designation J6J1 (internal)
designation eSATA Port 3 (external)

DMI Port Connector
designation J1F2 (internal)
designation AC IN (external)

DMI Port Connector
designation J5B1 - PCH JTAG (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9A1 - TPM/PORT 80 (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9E4 - HDA 2X8 Header (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9E7 - HDA 8Pin Header (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J8F1 - HDA HDMI (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9E3 - Scan Matrix Keyboard (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J8E1 - SPI Program (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9E5 - LPC Hot Docking (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J9G2 - LPC SIDE BAND (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J8F2 - LPC Slot (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J8H3 - PCH XDP (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J7G1 - SATA Port 2 (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J7G2 - SATA Port 1 (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J6H1 - SATA Power (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J5J1 - FP Header (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4H1 - ATX Power (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J1J3 - AVMC (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J1H1 - BATT B (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J1H2 - BATT A (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J2G1 - CPU Fan (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J1D3 - XDP (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4V1 - Memory Slot 1 (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4V2 - Memory Slot 2 (internal)

DMI Port Connector
designation J4C1 - FAN PWR (internal)

DMI Extension Slot
designation J5C1
type AA
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation J6C2
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation J6D2
type A5
populated yes

DMI Extension Slot
designation J7C1
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation J7D2
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation J6C1
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation J8C1
type A5
populated yes

DMI Extension Slot
designation J9C1
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation JAC1
type A5
populated no

DMI Extension Slot
designation JBC1
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no

DMI OEM Strings
string[0]

DMI System Information
manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
product K72F
version 1.0
serial AAN0BC00024P42
UUID {00106D8E-2500-8016-FFFF-20CF30D06ABF}
SKU unknown
family unknown

DMI Physical Memory Array
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 16384 MBytes
max# of devices 4

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM0
format SODIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
size 2048 MBytes

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM1
format DIMM
type unknown

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM2
format SODIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
size 1024 MBytes

DMI Memory Device
designation DIMM3
format DIMM
type unknown


Graphics
Number of adapters 1

Graphic APIs
API Intel I/O

Display Adapters
Display adapter 0
Display name \\.\DISPLAY1
Name Intel(R) HD Graphics
Board Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
Memory size 1238 MB
PCI device bus 0 (0x0), device 2 (0x2), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x8086 (0x1043)
Model ID 0x0046 (0x1702)
Performance Level 0

Win32_VideoController AdapterRAM = 0x4D645800 (1298421760)
Win32_VideoController DriverVersion = 8.15.10.2993
Win32_VideoController DriverDate = 01/30/2013

Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Home Premium Edition 64-bit Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
DirectX Version 11.0



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