Building a decent gaming pc for $600

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Hi!!
I am new to pc building and I want to build one but I am on a budget of $600AUD and I need one soon, I don't need any peripherals but i prefer it being able to run dual monitors if it's possible. I plan on playing bf3&4, CS:GO and DayZ standalone. I was wondering if you could give me a list of parts/build that I could look at as I have no idea what to look for


I have:
- BenQ 24" gaming monitor (HDMI)
- Razer Blackwidow 2014 ultimate mechanical stealth (USB)
- Razer Kraken 7.1 chroma (USB)
- Razer Deathadder 2013 (USB)

And I'm looking at getting a 21.5" Samsung ToC monitor for multitasking

Shipping isn't inclided in budget
 
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I can't pick parts for you
But remember this when you building budget pc
Even i5 2500k don't bottleneck latest graphics cards
So buy best graphic card with your money and keep everything other in low cost!
Try save money in every way!
Find windows cd from your friend and save money!
Like that always save with your best!
600aud = 500 usd i think!
So you should save a lot of money when going with that budget
You run on very low budget!
So maybe use used parts!
Try to get gtx 770 at least!
For gaming,gpu matters most!
Get best card you could get with your money
Hope this helps
 
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masteranu

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I'm not in Australia
But i bought parts from Australia via my uncle
I built this
Used I5 2400
G61 mobo
8gb ram
500w bronze psu
And used gtx 770 via ebay
You can get i7 2600 with your budget
I went for used parts because i wanted best performance for my budget!
Don't buy latest mobo with latest cpu
Just use cheaper ones and buy best gpu!
Good luck
 
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In 2002, when the difference between the top of the line $1000 CPU, and the CPU you could buy for ~$50 was like 30% compute performance, everything Masternanu is saying about the "GPU matters most" was absolutely true. You could buy any desktop CPU you wanted to as they all performed so similarly that it didn't matter. CPU makers were commanding some amazing price scaling in some cases for tiny changes in performance, so "best value" was almost always on the low end for CPUs.

It's not 2002 anymore. The range of compute performance on desktop CPUs is MUCH wider than it was back then. There are lots of current CPUs considered "mainstream/new" that run many modern games badly. It doesn't matter what gaming GPU you pair these weak CPUs with, the hard cap on performance (fps) is always the CPU.

The difference between a budget CPU (~$100) and a "nice" (within the context of gaming workloads) CPU (~$200), can be the difference between 30FPS minimums and 50FPS minimums in many popular multiplayer games. Most people consider 60FPS to be the goal for a gaming PC. It takes a nice gaming CPU to ensure this sort of frame rate the majority of the time in modern compute intensive games.

The difference between a budget gaming GPU (~$100) and middle tier gaming GPU (~$200), is visual quality. Both can run any game at 10FPS, 20FPS, 40FPS, 60FPS, 90FPS... take your pick, your GPU bound performance cap is inversely adjustable with visual quality. Roughly speaking a $100 GPU at 720P will produce the same FPS as a $200 GPU at 1080P.

Gaming performance does not originate with the GPU. The "GPU matters most" premise for gaming builds is no longer relevant.
 
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This.

This if you don't need OS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 280 3GB royalKing Video Card ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ Directron)
Total: $610.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 01:55 EST-0500


 
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I didn't understand Mdocod totally
But if you are trying to say cpu matters more than gpu in gaming i totally disagree with you!
Well yeah if we use pentium 4 and i7 it will
But i suggested him a i5 2400 which have 6mb l3 cache and it proved that it doesn't bottleneck gtx 970 though!
Well for streaming cpu matters a lot
But for pc gaming I'm 100 sure with experience that gtx 770 in i5 2500k and i7 4th gen cpu won't make more than 5 fps difference in games he talk about
If cpu doesn't bottleneck
It means fps difference is bearly noticible right?
Correct me if um wrong
 
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What mcodod is saying is that CPU drives the game engine, and graphics card drives the detail settings.

So minimum FPS is nearly all CPU dependent and maximum FPS is GPU dependent.

You play a game and hopefully your FPS stays mostly on the high side, but we all know that poorly optimized games, poor direct x, and poor drivers can really put a choke on a CPU.

So please do get a descent CPU that can handle the engine of the game that you want to play. Then decide how pretty you want it to look as you pick your graphics card.

make sense? no? read the FAQ.

 
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Ah oki thanks for the description!
Well that's about when it bottleneck nah?
Again I'm trying to understand this okay! No offense and highly appreciate your support!
Your article says if cpu bottleneck minimum fps goes way down and gpu bottleneck maximum goes down right?am i wrong?
I'm asking if i5 2400 isn't bottlenecking will their any significant fps difference in gaming?
I have i5 and my friend has i7
He burrowed my gpu when I'm studying for exam and he achieved almost same fps while playing games in ultra!
I suggested about buy best gpu based on that!
So far i know 4 Core i5 2400 with 6mb cache is one of greatest old-budget gaming rig component!
Well this guy asking for pc worth 488$ and that's why i suggested that!
When I'm struggling in budget i always think about gpu rather than other parts!
Correct me if um wrong!
Will there any significant difference if he choose costly 4th gen i5worth 200 aud over i5 2500 (70 aud)?
Um talking about for pc gaming?
 
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1107
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1104
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1105
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1106
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1063

2002 made a comeback? it is silly every time you try lumping together bottlenecks in games as a whole. you need to put a specific cpu and gpu to the test with a specific game. back in the days of dx9 intel rained dominance with high physics games destroying on 1-2 cores. dx11 is much more advanced and if a fx cpu cant get job done especially with a 60hz monitor then the developers didnt get the job done.
 
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I'm not talking about 2002 dude!
It was a simple question and you gave answers in your links!
I was talking about when running on budget there's no use of buying a costly cpu because performance gain to price increasement ratio is very low with cpu rather than gpu
I was suggesting him to buy best gpu and get 2500k
Just give me answers straight!
Are you suggesting him to buy a better cpu or not?
 
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masteranu

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This is what I'm saying
Not about 2002 or anything
Let's keep this simple
He ask for a pc to play battlefield 4
For his very low budget with components i suggested
(gtx 770 and i5 2500k)
He can achieve 60 fps in 1080p
Are you saying him to buy 3rd gen i7 and buy gtx 560 ti? And he can achieve better results?
I'm using computers since 480(before pentium 1 come)
And played games until today
In 99% occasions gpu was the main factor for reduce gaming experience for me!
I was suggesting him to buy best gpu with "decent " cpu
Because he wants to play latest games run in dx 11
And in future there will be more demanding games!
I know if he have money i would suggest ssd,high quality cpu and very pretty casing!
But ssd won't increase fps
It just speed up loading time!
Very pretty casing won't help at all except cooling!
And cpu won't matter as gpu until he stream!
I was saying best thing to do with money he have!
Prove me if I'm wrong
 
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This is what I would go with at this price point. I did not include the monitor, I don't think it's an option at this price point,
PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/BqwhTW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/BqwhTW/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($85.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($172.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($72.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Total: $640.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 21:31 EST+1100
 
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Because hes running on budget!
Manufacturer date doesn't matter when gaming!
If With latest components he can't play games there's no use of having them!
I also love latest parts but he can't afford it man!
Just understand the situation here
He is trying to build a gaming pc about 480 usd and you are suggesting him parts worth 1000usd!
Pcpartpicker.com is for latest builds
It doesn't have older prices!
I was in his situation once and I'm suggesting what i did!
For me i only care about performance!
Just understand the situation here
You may be good at building high end gaming rigs
But this is what i good at!
Buying something worth the price!
It's his choice dude!
Just let him choose what he needs
If he select latest parts over high performance
Let him do it!
He just asking suggestions and that's what im doing
This is what i would build
I5 2500k
B75 or g 61 mobo
8gb ram
1tb hard
Gtx 770
And 500w bronze certified psu!
It can run bf4 in ultra pretty over 60fps and will run games comming in next two years even in high graphics
 
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"The Intel G3258 is the first budget Pentium processor to feature an unlocked multiplier. This enables a comfortable overclock to 4.3 GHz using just the stock heat sink and fan. At 4.3 GHz, in terms of single and dual core performance, the G3258 challenges a fully overclocked i7-4790K, the fastest CPU I have seen to date! These results are stunning considering that the G3258 is retailing for around one fifth as much as an i7-4790K. The G3258's Achilles heel is its poor multi-core performance which is over 50% weaker than the group leaders. For the vast majority of users, assuming an overclock of 4.3 GHz, the G3258 is the best value processor on the market by miles. On the other hand, users that encode multi-media or run SLI/Crossfire setups should look elsewhere. [Jul '14 CPUPro]"

Sure a i5 2500k and a gtx 770 can run bf4 in ultra, but both they cost more than the complete budget of the op...
 
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Now now let's not get carried away.. The g3258 doesn't challenge the i7 at all. The i7 has more cache, hyperthreading and a high clock speed. The g3258 will be outdated real soon too. Far cry 4 doesn't support IT and that's just the beginning.

Now as for these magical parts we can find on eBay.. Okay master, can you please me me where you can get a 2500k and a 770 for a good price on eBay? Link the ads and auctions don't count.
 
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I stand by my grounds. For 600 AUSD, this is the best you can get for the specified games. It can be cheaper if the OP does not wish to overclock. A 4.3 oc would be possible on the stock cooler.
PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/BqwhTW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/BqwhTW/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($85.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-C ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($172.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($72.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Total: $640.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 21:31 EST+1100
 
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