Upgrading ram capacity from 2x4gb to 4x4gb on a dual channel m/b

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I currently have 2x4gb corsair rams running in dual channel. I want to add another 8gb because i find that im running out ram every now and then because google chrome is such a resource hog.

My question is, is it worth breaking the dual channel setup to save some money? or should i sell off my kit and buy a 2x8gb ram kit. Is the performance hit notable breaking up the dual channel setup?
 
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Almost every single rig I build gets two separate dual channel kits for 16GB of total RAM. I don't need a source, it's what I do. I've never in my life heard of having two dual channel kits causing single channel operation unless there were incompatibilities between modules, like different speeds, timings or voltages. That's the whole reason there is a channel A and channel B on each four slot board, so you can run four modules with them all in dual channel operation.

To indicate otherwise is a lack of understanding.


Dual-channel architecture requires a dual-channel-capable motherboard and two or more DDR, DDR2 SDRAM, or DDR3 SDRAM memory modules. The memory modules are installed into matching banks, which are usually...
Why do you think it would affect your dual channel setup. To start with, you shouldn't run out of memory with 4GB. Something is likely causing it, like an infection. Check your task manager and look at the running processes to see if anything out of the ordinary has multiple instances.

Run full malware and virus scans.

If you add a matched set of modules to the second channel of slots, you would simply have two pairs of modules, both running in dual channel. It would be best to try and use the same part number as your current two modules, but if that's not possible, just try to get two other matched modules with identical specs.
 

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As clearly stated, i have 2x4gb (8gb in total) not a single 4gb. I'm not running out of ram while idling, but i run out of ram when i have heaps of chrome tabs opened up. I like to have a lot of tabs opened up when im researching or doing my assignments. But that's not the point.

I want to upgrade my ram to 16gb but in doing so, I will break up the dual channel setup as this is an intel 1155 socket. Once again, my question is breaking up the dual channel setup worth the money saved?



Do you have any sources for that? because i'm pretty sure having 2 dual channel kits will cause all the modules to run in single channel.
 
Almost every single rig I build gets two separate dual channel kits for 16GB of total RAM. I don't need a source, it's what I do. I've never in my life heard of having two dual channel kits causing single channel operation unless there were incompatibilities between modules, like different speeds, timings or voltages. That's the whole reason there is a channel A and channel B on each four slot board, so you can run four modules with them all in dual channel operation.

To indicate otherwise is a lack of understanding.


Dual-channel architecture requires a dual-channel-capable motherboard and two or more DDR, DDR2 SDRAM, or DDR3 SDRAM memory modules. The memory modules are installed into matching banks, which are usually color-coded on the motherboard. These separate channels allow the memory controller access to each memory module. It is not required that identical modules be used (if motherboard supports it), but this is often recommended for best dual-channel operation.

Motherboards supporting dual-channel memory layouts typically have color-coded DIMM sockets. Coloring schemes are not standardized and have opposing meanings, depending on the motherboard manufacturer's intentions and actual motherboard design. Matching colors may either indicate that the sockets belong to the same channel (meaning that DIMM pairs should be installed to differently colored sockets), or they may be used to indicate that DIMM pairs should be installed to the same color (meaning that each socket of the same color belongs to a different channel). The motherboard's manual will provide an explanation of how to install memory for that particular unit. A matched pair of memory modules may usually be placed in the first bank of each channel, and a different-capacity pair of modules in the second bank.[6]

Modules rated at different speeds can be run in dual-channel mode, although the motherboard will then run all memory modules at the speed of the slowest module. Some motherboards, however, have compatibility issues with certain brands or models of memory when attempting to use them in dual-channel mode. For this reason, it is generally advised to use identical pairs of memory modules, which is why most memory manufacturers now sell "kits" of matched-pair DIMMs. Several motherboard manufacturers only support configurations where a "matched pair" of modules are used. A matching pair needs to match in:
Capacity (e.g. 1024 MiB). Certain Intel chipsets support different capacity chips in what they call Flex Mode: the capacity that can be matched is run in dual-channel, while the remainder runs in single-channel.
Speed (e.g. PC5300). If speed is not the same, the lower speed of the two modules will be used. Likewise, the higher latency of the two modules will be used.
Same CAS Latency (CL) or Column Address Strobe.
Number of chips and sides (e.g. two sides with four chips on each side).
Matching size of rows and columns.

Dual-channel architecture is a technology implemented on motherboards by the motherboard manufacturer and does not apply to memory modules. Theoretically any matched pair of memory modules may be used in either single- or dual-channel operation, provided the motherboard supports this architecture.
 
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rain92

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Oh okay, I suppose that makes sense, especially after referring back to my m/b user manual.

I suppose what made me think they would all run in single channel is because of this answer someone in another thread gave.


I have a few questions:

1. I have dual channel DDR3 memory and 4 memory slots. Curently the computer has 8 GB (4 X 2GB in each slot). Can I mistmatch pairs? (2 X 8GB one pair and 2 X 2GB other pair).

2. Is this upgrade is memory going to make a significant differnce in loading large programs like Adobe all at once or am I wasting my money?

3. Would it be better to go with just 8GB X 2 and remove the other pair (2 X 2GB)?

I cannot afford to upgrade all 4 memory slots to 8GB each (32GB RAM) nor do I think anyone needs this much memory. Before I go out and spend $150 to buy a set of 8GB memory sticks I need to make sure it's going to help me, and I am pairing right. Am I wasting money here or would it actually help?"

"you can mismatch pairs yes but then all 4 modules will run in single channel mode but at the end of the day if you have more install it as the loss of dual channel mode doesn't really matter as the minor performance hit will recover with the extra ram "


I don't know how to add quotes =\
Thanks anyway!
 
If you match identical part numbers, or get a matched pair (Bought together, and SOLD as a matched pair) for the second bank, with as close to the same specs as the current modules, you'll be fine.

Just get the specs for your current modules. Download CPU-Z and look on the SPD tab. Your module part number will be listed there. Then google the part number to find the specs. Match speed, voltage and timings if getting a different module part number. The same part number is a better option but not always possible if the module is no longer made or was an OEM brand.