Replacement CPU needed for AMD Phenom II X6 1035T

ChessHead · Jan 15, 2015

The CPU in our computer died recently. I'd like to replace only the CPU, but I'm not sure what to look for. There are replacements listed for the 1035T, but it looks like most of them have gone obsolete already.

Here's a link to the system's specifications on Tiger Direct: http://Gateway DX4350-UR20P Desktop PC - AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6GHz

If I have to spend a couple of hundred dollars, then I'd rather just put that money towards a complete system. So, budget is an issue.

The system would mainly be used as a work station - word processing, e-mail, Web access and the like. So, I'm okay with dropping the performance if i don't have to upgrade to a different motherboard.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Mark

BigBadBeef · Jan 15, 2015

Why would it cost couple hundred dollars? more like 50-60 bucks.

NightAntilli · Jan 15, 2015

How do you know it's the CPU?
Can you check what the motherboard is? Or take a picture of it? If we don't know the motherboard, it will be difficult recommending a CPU.

ChessHead · Jan 15, 2015

Hello Warp 9 - I agree that 50 to 60 bucks is more in line with getting a 3 year old system working again. But I'm having trouble finding replacement CPU's in that range. Would like to avoid used.

Hello NightAntilli. Thanks for the questions. I'll do my best to answer.

I checked the power supply and it was fine. Checked all connections, they were fine. Use a POST card to diagnose the boot sequence and it wouldn't even get past the initial "--" display. My suspicion is that the processor overheated because I've heard the CPU fan race up to breakneck speeds at times when the system was idling. As soon as I touched the KB or mouse, it would come back down to a reasonable speed (back ground Antivirus software running is my guess). The last time it did that, the fan wouldn't slow down, so I shutdown the computer. After that, when I powered on all that would come on were the fans - nothing else.

I'm willing to spend a little money to get the system up and running again (I've already built a replacement computer) because we could use a second system for basic things like Internet browsing and to let the kids do their homework on.

I'll have to check on the Motherboard. I didn't see any clear labels about the brand name. I do remember seeing a sticker that had the name 'Parsons' on it. It may have been an AMI motherboard because I think that's what I remember seeing as the name when the BIOS would come up.

I'll post back later with either the name of the Motherboard manufacturer or with a picture.

BigBadBeef · Jan 16, 2015

Warp? hehehe that's my title not my name lol, but I digress...

slyu9213 · Jan 16, 2015

You will almost never find a new CPU for cheap even if it's EoL. Since the AM3 CPUs have been gone for a while they are rarer to find making them expensive. First thing you need to do is find out what CPUs are compatible with your PC/motherboard.

Phenom 6-cores tend to be kind of overpriced even when used, especially the unlocked ones. By workstation you mean non intensive things or like a doing intensive things? If you plan to do non intensive tasks I wonder if a 6-core is necessary compared to a Phenom II x2 or x4

ChessHead · Jan 26, 2015

Sorry for the delay. There are no obvious markings on the motherboard to indicate who made it. Eventually, I found out that Gateway claims the board as theirs: MB.GBK0P.001 - I think! The only thing on the board is "APM BB-RF Rev 1.02" It's looking like the AMD Athlon™ II X4 640 works in most other boards that had the Phenom II x6 processor. So, I'm thinking it might work here as well. Any opinions? I'm okay with a quad-core since I don't think the CPU every really used all 6 processors anyway on the original.

NightAntilli · Jan 26, 2015

Seems like it's an AM3 board, not AM3+. That limits your choices quite a bit. But yes, the Athlon II X4 640 will work.

slyu9213 · Jan 27, 2015

Yes the Athlon II X4 would work and probably be one of the cheaper Quad-Core choices you have

BigBadBeef · Jan 27, 2015

The athlon II would be a poor replacement for the CPU you had before, are you sure you can't squeeze in a few more extra bucks to buy another like your old CPU? There really is no more than 15 bucks difference between the two.

slyu9213 · Jan 27, 2015

$15 bucks between an Athlon II X4 and a Phenom II X6? If you find one that close provide a link for the OP because I can barely find any new Phenom II X6 1035T. For the higher up versions I can see a more. All the OP needs is a replacement CPU for word processing, email, web access, etc. I don't think a person using their computer for that usage needs a 6-Core, especially if it's more expensive.

bmacsys · Jan 27, 2015

ChessHead :

Pretty sure that 1035T was a 95 watt OEM version. So you want to make sure you don't get a 125 watt cpu like a 965 BE or a 1055T. The OEM motherboards are hardly what you would call "robust" so I would be careful about this. A 125 watt cpu would cook it. I think the Athlon II X4's were 95 watt.

slyu9213 · Jan 27, 2015

Yes you want to stay away from 125W CPUs for your OEM motherboard. The lone OEM motherboard I had upgraded the CPU burned out a few years later because I replaced the 45W with a 125W.

In a financial point look at the Athlon II x4. The Phenom II x6 1035-1065T all are 95W or have 95W versions. Doesn't mean they will all work with yout computer. All the Athlon II x4 are 95W or lower.

bmacsys · Jan 27, 2015

slyu9213 :

The Athlon II's are plentiful and cheap on eBay to boot!

slyu9213 · Jan 27, 2015

That's what I said...up a few posts

ChessHead · Feb 4, 2015

Thanks for the feedback and answers everyone! One of the things I just noticed is that the Athlon II X4 640 does not have integrated graphics like the Phenom x6 did. That kicks the costs of using it above the threshold of just putting the money towards a new system. On top of that, the 640 suddenly seems to be hard to find except from shops that I'm not sure I would trust that the parts were handled properly.

So, maybe I'm looking at a Celeron processor/ motherboard combination now instead. I hate to do that (a bit more of a performance drop than I'd like) but the other options seem to be drying up.

NightAntilli · Feb 4, 2015

Are you sure the Phenom X6 has integrated graphics? I think it doesn't. The motherboard has integrated graphics if I'm not mistaken, so that should not be a problem. Again, I'm not 100% sure.

slyu9213 · Feb 4, 2015

ChessHead :

Like Antilli said the IGP (integrated graphics) was not put onto the CPU itself until they released the FM1,FM2,FM2+ socket and the APUs for consumers. With AM3+, AM3, AM2+, AM2 the IGP is actually on the motherboard itself. That is why with those sockets most of the time the really high-end motherboards did not have an IGP yet the mainstream and lower ends had an IGP. If you currently have integrated graphics available with your current motherboard and 1035T then you will still have an IGP with an Athlon CPU. If you can't find the X4 640 anymore you can go with other choices too like Intel.

For your needs I believe FM2+/AM1 and LGA 1150 are all good choices to think about. AM1 being the cheapest.

For LGA 1150 the cheapest option would be the Celeron (~$47) as you said. For AM1 the best would be either of the Quad-Core APUs Athlon 5150 & 5350 (~$50/65). With FM2/FM2+ A8-6600K but at ~$89 it's the most expensive. So so far the cheapest to most expensive is AM1, LGA 1150, FM2/FM2+.

Now for the motherboards. AM1 has the cheapest choices begining at ~$28 and maxing out at $49. One thing to consider is that most of the AM1 motherboards only have 2 SATA ports and a few have 4. If you need more storage connection you will need to choose another socket type or get an addon card for more sata ports. For FM2/FM2+ you have choices from the $43 range to the $100+ range. Finally with LGA 1150 it has motherboards from the $40 range to $100+ range.

If you're thinking of switching motherboard/cpu completely you'll have to decide whether the cheapest lower clocked Quad-Core (Athlon 5150/5350) is a better option than a slightly higher clocked and similarly priced Dual-Core (Intel Celeron) or a much higher clocked Dual-Core (Intel Pentium). Or if the higher clocked AMD Quad Core (A8-6600K) that costs almost double is worth it. All three should have IGP. Next for motherboards you would have to decide how much sata/usb ports you need and the quality/brand of the motherboards. You have time to decide and you can always keep looking for that Athlon too while you're thinking

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