Can someone tell me the best parts for best gaming PC for 820 dollar(with casing) or 875(without casing) in January 2015

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I was using Laptop for 4 years but now i can't play high graphics games in my Laptop so i want to change to Dextop. Since i am a new PC builder i don't know what to put in my PC. I have chosen Monitor, Casing,UPS but i can't able to select other ITEMS. So can someone give me the parts i need to build a PC under 820 dollars(without casing) or 875 dollars with PC? I really need your all advice.
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@Sam_212 You are missing components for the PC and please provide PCPartPicker links for builds.

My suggested builds are:

AMD CPU Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/alannm37/saved/CzRH99

Intel CPU Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/alannm37/saved/d9pNnQ

I myself suggest the AMD build as the CPU has more cores + there is an extra 100GB+ of SSD space in the build. You will be future proof for at least the next 5 years.
 
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Mate...which parts am I missing? you mean an HDD? if that's the case he can simply change the i5 to a non K version and get a cheaper mobo as well, even i3 3rd or fourth gen work better than something like fx 8350 in some games, y you recommend a dead CPU and a dead socket because it has more cores, which in practice even bows to i3 and then you call this future proofing? and you recommend an SSD which literally in gaming has no effect??? well, well done mate and seriously gtx 770 for a 870$ build? lol
 
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if you need an HDD pal change the above mentioned CPU and mobo to this so it will be like this
CPU: i5-4570 for 199$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896
Mobo: Asus B85m for 84$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131991&cm_re=lga_1150_motherboard-_-13-131-991-_-Product
Graphics card: GTX970 for 342$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899
RAM: 8gb ram Corsair for 82$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345
PSU: Corsair 600wfor 69$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
HDD: WD 1tb black for 74$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625&cm_re=hdd_western_digital_1tb_black-_-22-236-625-_-Product
overal 850$
You can add up an ssd whenever you want later, but don't get a lower cpu or gpu... that is important when it comes to gaming not an ssd
 
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An SSD has no effect in gaming? That points to someone with not much experience. Levels load infinitely faster. My FX-6300 overclocked beats most i5 processors in gaming, so an AMD FX-8350 will obviously be much better when overclocked. Newer games being released will be supporting more and more cores so an AMD is an excellent choice for the future. So unless you know all the possibilities, don't try help someone.
 
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Mate...mate!!!! have you ever hard the name dark.resurrection on tomshardware? well It is me...yes the god damn AMD fanboy...knock it off we have gone through this, and we have failed, Intel is far better than any fx cpu out there...GAMES? which games so look at these benchmarks...look...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/5
why is fx 8350 almost always below i3?
 
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Newer games? which games?
look these new games are optimized for 8 core consoles but look how fx cpus fail
AC:UNITY http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-unity-test-gpu.html&prev=search look at it fx 9370 is below i3 4330
AC: Black flag http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-4-black-flag-test-gpu.html&prev=search look at this fx 8350 is on par with an ancient intel cpu
 
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well you want more?
Far cry 4: http://www.techspot.com/review/917-far-cry-4-benchmarks/page5.html fx 8350 worse than phenom II x4 980
Hitman Absoloution: http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-performance-benchmarks/page6.html fx 8300 worse than phenom II x4 980 again

As far as loading is concerned, yes games load faster but one the game is loaded there is no difference, now which one is better wait 15 seconds more and when the game loads you play smoothly, or wait 15 seconds less and play with god damn frame rates, because you want him to believe more cores= better...
Read this to get some experience
Is ssd important for gaming?
chart 1: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/3#.VLlOXfLsC1s
chart 2: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/4#.VLlOg_LsC1s
Conclusion by an expert who does not lack experience: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/5#.VLlOr_LsC1s
 
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I'll do some benchmarks on my FX-6300 and will get better FPS than any review you posted, there is a lot of factors to consider when it comes to benchmarks. I'll then PM you ;)

EDIT: By the way, I have no preference when it comes to AMD or Intel.
 
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C'mon mate, AMD made a dog's dinner out of everything, I hate AMD now.. like a lover that becomes frustrated, I am angry at AMD, I had an fx 8350, and an r9-290x as well, that stupid CPU made me swear I would never get an AMD again, a week later sold the fx and the r9-290x both I loathed AMD... When a so called high end CPU makes you nauseous in a game like skyrim or world of war craft... That CPU is nothing but a piece of junk, I recommend an i3 over any fx CPU all day... I am not interested in your benchmarks either, when all websites publish the same thing, any thing other than it will be a pure lie...liusten he wants to pay money, to buy premium things, to enjoy playing games not to punish himself any minute for listening to someone who loved AMD ...leave him alone then
 
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@ the OP take a look at these benchmarks as well although 4570 is not in the list, note 4570 is on par with 3570k or slightly better
1.http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
2. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/arma-iii-test-gpu.html&usg=ALkJrhiY_xKduc3F8we1JHgMVX86dV-rbA
3. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/saints-row-iv-test-gpu.html&usg=ALkJrhjiVHzlIrxb1udhx0Z62ujyeudyuw
4. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/tom-clancys-splinter-cell-blacklist-test-gpu.html&usg=ALkJrhiaOJP20zjQ_4C0bfv04n3zojs0DQ
5. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/remember-me-test-gpu.html&usg=ALkJrhgo3y1IzxxV5li8dRPo2CoW0eRvGA
and many more examples which show that fx8350 is trash, dont want to make you tired, I just want you to see and then choose for yourself
 
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I would take into account and reason with you if you weren't so one sided (E.G. Massive Intel person). As for people like me, I see AMD as an amazing price/performance ratio. I as well love Intel, I have 0 things against it, all my laptops have all been Intel based because the AMD laptops are a piece of poop like. But anyway, as I said above, I am done here and I would love to know your input on things but I don't like seeing biased people. Just wanted to add that if you do overclock the FX-8350, it's been proven it's on par with the i5-3570k in most cases. Also the only real difference is Intel is much stronger on Single Cores. They both have their own benefits in the end.

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Sir, I liked your configuration very much. Sir could u also tell me which casing i should use for this build? I am satisfied with u r PC build.
Sir, I want to ask another question. Is UPS needed for good gaming performance? If i don't buy an UPS will this give a bad effect in the system when an Blackout is in progress??
 
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You are welcome, this rig you are going to build, is a wild beast... as far as UPS is concerned, UPS does not hinder gaming performance, nor does it give you extra performance , so what is it good for? well a UPS comes in handy whenever there is a power interruption event, it is like an external battery which keeps your PC awake whenever there is a power outage, not for long, so that you can shut down properly...the problem with UPS is that a good unit like this one in this article, http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-ups-battery-backup,7489.html , keeps your system awake for only 7 minutes in case of a power outage, at the price of 249$ I really think it's not worth it, there 2 reasons you may need a UPS
1: You live in a place that there are a lot of power outages/ interruptions... a good example can be lamps' fading frequently
2: You are a pro of photo editing, video editing and you want to eliminate any chance of loosing progress
Unless the two aforementioned cases are true for you, I recommend you not buy a UPS... I have never had one and I am a gamer for almost 17 yeas and never had any problems with power outages/interruptions, maybe once/twice in a year there is power outage/interruption, so my computer shuts down, but what's the big deal?
when it comes to casing, well I have to say it is the matter of your taste, and the amount of money you want to spend, the most important thing is good air flow, here are some good options, the first one is my own case
1. Cooler Master for 59$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&cm_re=case_cooler_master-_-11-119-233-_-Product
2. Cooler master for 99$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119263&cm_re=case_cooler_master-_-11-119-263-_-Product
3. Cooler master for 119$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119303&cm_re=case_cooler_master-_-11-119-303-_-Product
also you can look at this list, the list is extensive to be honest http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=case+cooler+master&N=-1&isNodeId=1
I highly recommend the first one, i mean 'Cooler Master HAF 912 - High Air Flow Mid Tower Computer Case' I have one myself and it has accommodated sli gtx 780 6gb and i5 4670k well enough and I am really really happy with it both in terms of appearance which is like a monster, and great air flow...but the decision is yours to make
 
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Thanks again sir for your recommendation. I also liked the casing u recommend. I want to ask another question about graphics card. Most of the talk about graphics card comes when it comes to overclocking and almost every time when comparing graphics card it comes the term overclocking. I saw the review about the Asus GTX-970 i able to know it's performance is better when it's overclocked but sir i don't like overclocking my PC. I loved my laptop and used it even when i won't able to play games in it but even than i didn't even think about overclocking it so I won't overclock this new PC either. So my question is, since i won't overclock my PC at-all, should i bye the Asus GTX-970 or could u suggest me another graphics card in it's place for this build?
 
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You are welcome, well about overclocking the decision is yours to make, all graphics card overclock, and all graphics card perform better when overclocked, about gtx 970, I guarantee this that you can max out any game on the planet without even overclocking, but in the future 2-3 years from now you can overclock your graphic card to get a better performance it is simple, easy and safe with Asus's gpu tweak
look at this picture http://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/gputweak.jpg
as you can see just below the apply button you can see 1 2 3 4 s G just press the G button and you have overclocked to the extent the manufacturer recommends, which is quite safe... but again I say this...you wont need that button for quite a while, gtx 970 is a beast!!!
 
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Sir, i want to ask another question. U said the most important for dextop is core & GPU. Is that means motherboard,power-supply and others are optional? meaning if i get the CPU & GPU u suggested and get a lower price motherboard,power-supply and others. will that matter much?
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($343.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $836.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-20 06:14 EST-0500


perfect build
 
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