ZOTAC GTX 970 With AMF FX 8350 @4.0Ghz Bottleneck?

Axum98 · Jan 19, 2015

So is this thing bottlenecking my gpu? i really do not know anymore as i have tried so much to try fix this and im sad to think its this. Im playing a game and every few seconds it will drop to around 40 from 60+ and as it dosnt sound bad it lags alot and i can notice it. I have tried BF4, Farcry4, Cod AW, and they all do the same thing. I just do not know what to do and i think i may need to upgrade to an i7 or i5 which i dont want to do because i just bought this stuff. Is it the ram slowing my gpu down is it my cpu i dont know?

I would love any help guys thanks

My rig might help

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GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 970
CPU: AMD FX9tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor@4Ghz
Memory: 8.00GB RAM
Native Res: 1920 x 1080, 59Hz
Driver Version 347.09

clutchc · Jan 19, 2015

There's no way an FX-8350 @ 4 GHz will bottleneck a GTX 970.

Axum98 · Jan 19, 2015

So what could it be then?

clutchc · Jan 19, 2015

Axum98 :

Normal server lag due to heavy traffic? Full 64 player load? Your PC needing optimizing? Too many things running in the background when you try to game? Registry errors, junk files, and software conflicts? Old graphics driver? CPU or GPU reaching throttle temps? The list can be quite long...

Axum98 · Jan 19, 2015

clutchc :

I have tried single player games, I have nothing running in the background, Dont know about registry errors, dont know about junk files, not sure about software conflicts, i have the latest driver and i have tried downgrading and the temps are all fine max the 8350 usually gets to is around 65

clutchc · Jan 19, 2015

Single player is lagging? Like stutter? What game precisely? And at what settings?

DubbleClick · Jan 19, 2015

There is no way a 8350 fx is bottlenecking a gtx 970? May I asked what you smoked? Even a 9590 fx is bottlenecking just a gtx 770 in most games.

So yeah, you are experiencing a cpu bottleneck. However, what you should take care of first are temperatures. While intel cpu's have no problem working at 90 degrees, fx cpu's should not go over 60c. 68c is official stated maximum, like intels 105c.

clutchc · Jan 19, 2015

I had an FX-8350 and this R9-290X in my sig. I speak from experience. But you are welcome to your opinion, of course.

Axum98 · Jan 19, 2015

I have tried it on Farcry 4 on high cod on max and bf4 on max I have tried lowering the graphics but it does the same thing, it basically runs fine for a minute or so then will drop fps causing some lag and I also drew a graph in-game on bf4 and it showed tthat it's bottlenecking my gpu Also my temps are ok max it usually gets around when playing long time is 57 quite close to 60 tbh but not usually over it. Also if it is cpu bottleneck then is their anything I can do?

RazerZ · Jan 19, 2015

What motherboard and PSU do you have?

Axum98 · Jan 20, 2015

I have a gold rated Antec 550w psu and my mobo is the Asus m5a78l-m USB3

madmatt30 · Jan 20, 2015

^ vrm throttling without a doubt.
That board is not designed for 8 cores iregardless of whether it can run them.
Was a bad choice of board for an 8350 mate - you would have had better results with a 6300 which its entirely capable of running.
Either motherboard replacement or Other best suggestion is downclocking to around 3.7ghz & disable turbocore.
This should stop throttling & give you more stability on the fps front.

RazerZ · Jan 20, 2015

^Agreed.

AlmightySofa · Jan 20, 2015

DubbleClick :

What are you smoking? Lol. I have an FX 8350 and a GTX 970, no bottleneck. No fps drops. So a 9590(an overclocked 8350) will definitely not bottleneck a 770. Back to the OP, it is not a bottleneck, look for other issues.

Axum98 · Jan 20, 2015

madmatt30 :

Thank you for for the help everyone i have just Downclocked it to 3.7 and im about to run Prime 95. Just kinda like a side question leading off this question. I am upgrading soon ive decided im going to buy a MSI B85-G41 Atx Mobo with a I5-4690k and then watercooling (just for the cpu) and then overclock not decided what to oc to yet but i will cross that bridge when i come to it. Any way the question is do you think the Msi mobo would be good enough for the i5 and capable of overclocking also would it bottleneck my gtx 970? Thanks for your help again!

madmatt30 · Jan 20, 2015

^ you need a z series board to over clock the k series i5 mate - that's a big expenditure when the 8350 is still a capable performer.
Why not just buy a decent 970 series board for the 8350 ??

Regarding testing your CPU with prime - what you want to see is your CPU usage at 100% on all cores while running - no throttling,no speed drops

Use either hwinfo64 or amd overdrive to monitor this.
The little Asus board has over zealous APM management & tend to downclock at the drop of a hat

Axum98 · Jan 20, 2015

^^ Ok thank you i will run it through amd overdrive right now. Also i am a really really big fan or Arma and its kinda one of the reasons i would like an i5 because apparently Arma dosnt run that well on AMD but i will definitely take what you have said about just upgrading the mobo into consideration. Also ive heard that not all games actually use all eight cores. Also im doing a big upgrade anyway as far as cases go so i thought i may aswell upgrade to an i5 anyway.

DubbleClick · Jan 20, 2015

AlmightySofa, just look into my signature and you'll see that the fx 8350 does bottleneck a gtx 770 to about 80% of the maximum obtainable framerate. Or just look at amy other benchmark google gives you.

RazerZ · Jan 20, 2015

In those benchmarks do they overclock the 8350?

From what I've seen an overclocked 8350 does well enough in most games and should handle a 970 fine.

madmatt30 · Jan 20, 2015

Who cares that an 8350 will only do 80fps & an i5 will do 100fps when 90% of us are only running 6htz screens anyway ??
Anyone who doesn't set vsync for games on a 60htz screen is a fool anyway IMO.

AlmightySofa · Jan 20, 2015

DubbleClick :

That is not a bottleneck, of course when comparing an i5 4690k and an fx 8350, you will get better frames with an i5 but it does not mean bottleneck. That just shows the i5 is a more capable processor. Bottleneck is when CPU load is 100% and gpu load is much lower.

DubbleClick · Jan 20, 2015

AlmightySofa :

No. A bottleneck is when the cpu doesn't support the gpu enough to produce it's maximum capable results, that's by definition of the term "bottleneck"ing. And just so you know, a cpu is always at 0% or 100% load.

AlmightySofa · Jan 20, 2015

DubbleClick :

Exactly, if the cpu working at 100% doesn't allow the gpu to work at 100% then it is a bottleneck. But either way, with so many sources out there about the fx 8350 not bottlenecking a single gtx 970, and by looking your signature, I'm wasting my time with a little fanboy. Don't bother replying.

DubbleClick · Jan 21, 2015

Did you even understand what I say? Apparently not.
However, with all those sources showing the 8350 fx not bottlenecking a gtx 970, I wonder where those are. Because I can't find a single. On the other hand, all that I find show it limiting the gtx 970. Not sure who's the fanboy here.

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