Nvidia GTX 960 vs AMD R9 280X

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Basically, NVIDIAs brand spanking new 960 came out not too long ago, but as I was about to buy it I decided to do more research. I discovered that in some people's opinion, the AMD card is better, but I have no clue if this is true or not. Could someone confirm or deny this for me? Thank you :)
 
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-mantle-performance-benchmark,3860.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/793-thief-battlefield-4-mantle-performance/page2.html

there are other reviews as well. Note that gains from using mantle are more substantial when combined...

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Sweet, just one more question: do you think it could max out games like Civilization V and Borderlands 2? (1080p)
 

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The latest CIV and supposedly all future releases are supposed to support Mantle which puts the 280x substantially ahead of the 960. In fact... the 280x probably beats the Geforce 980 (a $550 card) in those games thanks to that API (if not in raw FPS, at least in overall performance).
 


mantle mainly helps in situations where there is a CPU bottleneck. while Civ games have always been CPU intensive, a modern i5 or i7 from Intel have been shown to be sufficient for the games. Mantle will give AMD cards an edge for sure, but I doubt it will be anything more than 5-10% unless you're using a seriously underperforming CPU (such as i3 or pentium, or fx4000 class or APU)
 

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Where did you hear that Mantle mainly helps in CPU bottleneck situations?
 

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According to benchmarks so far, the advantages of Mantle are nowhere near that kinda of improvement. The gap between the 280x and the 980 is pretty substantial.
 

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I picked up the Sapphire Dual X R9 280, which you can OC the crap out of, for $164 after mail in rebate off of NewEgg. So you can get the R9s for pretty cheap now, and the Dual X cooling is pretty damn good, but like everyone else said, they draw a good bit more power compared to NVIDIA's "sweet spot" GPU. Personally, I keep my power saving features activated with my PC, so I have a little headroom, and I do care about those things, as I see the effects on the power bill. You also get an extra GB of GDDR 5 with the 280x, and the 280, for those high res textures and MSAA, and the normal 280 has about the same performance as the 960.

Check this out:
http://www.reviewstudio.net/1755-sapphire-r9-280-dual-x-review-the-x-makes-the-difference/performance
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/67581-sapphire-radeon-r9-280-dual-x/?page=11
 


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-mantle-performance-benchmark,3860.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/793-thief-battlefield-4-mantle-performance/page2.html

there are other reviews as well. Note that gains from using mantle are more substantial when combined with a low-end CPU such as an i3 or an APU. but the gains are less noticable when using high-end FX CPUs or i5/i7s. another interesting thing to note is that gains from Mantle are more obvious in low resolution (read CPU bottle-necked or CPU limited) situations, and less noticeable at higher resolutions. Particularly at resolutions above 1080p, there are hardly any gains at all
 
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Yeah, I can back these up with my own test now, my CPU usage on Mantle apps is much better spread out among cores and I have much less bottleneck issues using it. In fact, I run higher CPU temps with Mantle apps then any other.
Good call.