GTX 960 bottleneck

mickey_ · Jan 23, 2015

I want to upgrade from gtx 260 to gtx 960. My specs are Q6600 2.4 TT Big Typhoon 8 gb ddr 2 800 CM 650W. I want to know will I see a performance jump going from gtx 260 to gtx 960 and how big. I know i will see a bottleneck especially in cpu bound games but I saw on occ forum that someone had a big upgrade going from gtx 560 to gtx 970 with Q6600 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18627888&page=3

"see my benchmark data below of my Q6600 3.3ghz with 560 and with new 970:

Shadow of mordor, high settings 1920 res on 5601gb, 11fps. cpu usage 30%
shadow of mordor, high settigns 1920 res on 9704gb, 87fps. cpu usage 80%"

Im playing on 1680x1050 resolution. I know there will be a lot o you commenting change all components but I just want answer on this specific question, pls someone??

i7Baby · Jan 23, 2015

I want to know will I see a performance jump going from gtx 260 to gtx 960 - Yes

and how big - probably 100% - it's just guess work though.

thetechy · Jan 23, 2015

Yes, you will see a great performance boost moving from GTX 260 to 960. As big as about 40-60 FPS in almost each game.

spp85 · Jan 23, 2015

You can upgrade nothing wrong in it. GTX960 will be a big upgrade from GTX260.

mickey_ · Jan 23, 2015

Thanks on fast answers one more question is worth waiting gtx 960 ti beacuse of wider bus or is this irrelevant on this resolution???

holyrage · Jan 23, 2015

if u want to upgrade now go ahead with the GTX960 IMO if u can get the R9 280X for the same price i would go with that it is a 7970 after all with better specs if not the GTX960 will do

i7Baby · Jan 23, 2015

960ti might not even happen. Or might take 6 months or more.

There's always something else coming eg Radeon R9 - 3 series.

Just get what you can when you can. The 960 would be a good start. Next - CPU/mobo.

mickey_ · Jan 23, 2015

Ok I will then probably buy Asus gtx 960 because of cooling capabilities but its has wider gpu heatsing so will I have problem fitting it in Cooler master 690 first generetion ??

i7Baby · Jan 23, 2015

No - there'll be plenty of room. I've got 2 x gtx670s in a 690II

st3v30 · Jan 23, 2015

Go for R9 280x if you can you want that 3GB VRAM in future insted only 2GB on GTX 960,and 280x is better and stronger and also you will have Mantle in some newer games which will help you with your current CPU to reduce bottleneck.

mickey_ · Jan 23, 2015

I also forget to mention that my mobo only support PCie 2.0 so will that affect GPU performance

holyrage · Jan 23, 2015

no not at all single GPU performance wont be Reduced by much maybe 1% or less

SLI/Xfire setup will see a 5FPS drop in 2.0 isntead of 3.0 so don't worry about it

TheBigSmooth · Jan 23, 2015

I have almost the exact same rig as what you have. I just purchased a GTX 960 off Amazon with overnight shipping. So I'll get it today at some point. I'll bookmark the page and let u know what I get performance wise.

I should state that I had a 260 at one point and upgraded to a 1gb 560ti. Massive upgrade. So my results will be from a 560ti to a 960. We both have an aging system but the way I look at it is this. It's my final upgrade until Intel releases skylake and when I get that I'll give this gpu to my brother. It's a win win. I just know that the 560ti at 1080p did a damn good job but not 60fps that I wanted. I mostly play lol and Gary's mod. And I can't get 60fps in those games. I'll let u know what I get soon!

TheBigSmooth · Jan 23, 2015

You'll also get more than 100% performance. From a 260 to a 560ti that's a 100% performance boost while using half the power.
A 560ti to a 960 is at least 75% performance boost while using 40w less. So you're almost getting 200% for 120-140w your pc, power supply and electric bill will thank you.

Michal hajek · Jan 23, 2015

hi there, i have C2Q Q6600 3,24 Ghz OC, Kingston 800 Mhz 4x 2GB (8 GB Total) DDR2, and Geforce GTX 650 TI 2GB DDR5 Graphic card. i want to buy 960 too, but i dont know how much my procesor will reduce the graphic card power. Can anyone tell me if the card been very limited by processor?

EDIT: or i can buy Sapphire R9 280X VaporX 3GB GDDR5 or ASUS R9280X-DC2T-3GD5

st3v30 · Jan 23, 2015

It will limit it but you will still get HUGE fps boost in every game you play.

Update:Go for R9 280x will last you longer but you need good PSU for 280x
You need min 550W psu with 30A on 12V rail
http://i.imgur.com/QWRqVvu.png

Michal hajek · Jan 23, 2015

st3v30 :

OK i have this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151080

So only i can go for 960 right?

st3v30 · Jan 23, 2015

That PSU is not best one even if you get GTX 960 i would consider replacing that PSU asap.But that is just my opinion.You should post in PSU section on this forum to see can you run 280x on it.

Michal hajek · Jan 23, 2015

st3v30 :

i have that PSU over 5 years so maybe is time to replace him

st3v30 · Jan 23, 2015

OMG put that grandpa to rest.He is done enough for you dont make him do even more with new GPU XD

Michal hajek · Jan 23, 2015

st3v30 :

Ok i buy new PSU, 620W and with that A on 12v and buy R9

thanks a lot dude

st3v30 · Jan 23, 2015

This is PSU tier list
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html
Get any PSU until tier 3 and you will be fine.
When you find some post it here.

mickey_ · Jan 23, 2015

TheBigSmooth :

Im glad to hear that, I was a bit sceptical at first but thats good news. Is your Q6600 overclocked or stock, mine is at stock speed because i dont want more heat so does it really matter in games? Let me know about your upgrade to gtx 960 ?

DXsocko007 · Jan 26, 2015

After my time with the Asus 960 gtx I realized mine was a total dud. When it worked it actually gave me 20-30 fps more than my 560ti. I am running my q6600 at 2.4ghz.

i sent for a replacement as because anytime it would handle 3d it wouldn't let me do anything on my computer for 5 min then it would work for 30 seconds and happen all over again. When it worked it was fantastic. It will make your pc feel brand new again man. Buy it!

TheBigSmooth · Jan 29, 2015

mickey_ :

So far it's been a decent upgrade, the q6600 at stock 2.4 will be a bottleneck for sure and I still have issues in some games staying at a smooth 60fps. What this did do for my was give me and extra GB of vram which my system desperately needed for 1080p gaming. So now I have a more constant smooth fps as supposed to all over the place.

Idk what you are upgrading from but if it's anyrhing worse or before a 560ti you're gonna love it. It will make your pc feel brand new. This should be the final thing u do with an old system. No further upgrades can be done. Even OC will bring some new life but it's still not a huge increase of frame rate. I was OC AT 3.2 with 1066 FSB and as great as it was my pc ran way to hot and wasn't stable even with G0 stepping. Just upgrade and game again.

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