Good motherboard for fx6300

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Hi guys, i am going to build a new pc within a week.

This is what i am going to buy from a local shop(this is what the shopkeeper suggested):

Processor : Fx 6300
Motherboard : ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
Ram : 4Gb 1600mhz (i think it was A-data or corsair)
HDD : 1tb Western Digital(this was my choice)
PSU : Corsair VS550 (550 watts)
Cabinet : cheapest possible.
Graphics card : After 2-3 months
Monitor : any cheap 24inch led with 1600x900 resolution.

My problem is that ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 supports 1600mhz ram (O.C.) (according to the official page: http://www.asus.com/in/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/specifications/)

So these are my questions:

1. Will it support 1600mhz ram?
2. I dont want to spend money on an expensive motherboard like M5A97 because i want to save money for a good gpu. So, is M5A78 a good motherboard for overclocking? I may overclock to 4.0-4.4ghz after buying a gpu and only if frames drop in games.
3. Is corsair vs550 a good psu? it is 25% cheaper than cx500.

please answer soon. Thanks in advance. And one more thing, please dont suggest me to buy an i3 or i5. AMD FOR LIFE!! and also please dont suggest me to buy 7850k or 8350 because i want to save every single penny for a powerful gpu. fx 6300 is cheap and is my final choice. =)
 
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Lets clear all of this up.

I used to run a Fx-6300 on a M5A78L-M USB 3.0, And i loved it, I then went and got an i5 and my fps Really jumped, But i have always been a big AMD fan, If you are on a budget go with the 6300, Its an awesome chip

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Well the M5a78L-M/USB3 is probably the best micro-atx motherboard for AM3+ (not a lot of choices) but it's not that good of one either. A light OC to 4GHz shouldn't be a problem at all I would think, 4.4GHz might be a little harder. Just remember that if you have a spare fan lying around use it to cool the VRMs or the CPU socket.
 

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1. Will it support 1600mhz ram?
Yes it will

2. I dont want to spend money on an expensive motherboard like M5A97 because i want to save money for a good gpu. So, is M5A78 a good motherboard for overclocking? I may overclock to 4.0-4.4ghz after buying a gpu and only if frames drop in games.
The M5A97 Will be fine, And will support minor overclocking

3. Is corsair vs550 a good psu? it is 25% cheaper than cx500.
No, Its not a recommneded PSU, When choosing a PSU, Never go cheap, As its what is powering you're System, I would go for:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=26927 But if you are on a tight budget get http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=29871
 
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thanks for replying. i have more questions for you
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1. so it will support 1600mhz ram without me doing anything in the bios?
2. what if i buy a big cpu cooler (later)? will i be able to overclock it to 4.4ghz? btw (will overclock only if fps drops while gaming)
3. i am sorry. that psu is not available in my country. and in the shop, i only saw corsair, cooler master and some cheap psu's. is it really important to buy more expensive psu? is vs550 not good?
 
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thanks for replying, but will it support 1600mhz ram or will underclock it to 1333mhz? I will only overclock it if i see low fps and that too after buying a gpu. also what do you mean by spare fans? like those small led fans in cabinets?
 

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It will support the RAM at 1600MHz but you may have to enter the BIOS to set it to that speed. Even with motherboards that officially support a specific speed RAM they sometimes run it at it's slowest speed automatically until you change it manually. As long as the motherboard has a X8 Multiplier for your memory (200x8=1600MHz) then all you will have to do is enter the BIOS set the multiplier to 8 and then make sure the RAM is running on it's rated voltage.

By spare fans I mean any computer fans that is laying around not being used. For example, when you decide you want to overclock and you buy a bigger aftermarket cooler, you can remove the fan from the cooler that comes with the CPU (as you're not using it) and use it to cool just the CPU VRMs which will help with overclocks. Overclocking to 4GHz will be pretty easy and might not need any extra voltages, which means there will be little increase in temperatures. Anything beyond is where you want to have a better cooler and a strong power supply.
 
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thank you so much...
one last thing....is corsair vs550w good? it is one of the cheapest 550 watt psy and i really dont want a psu more expensive than that.
 

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I have read a lot of posts from people around multiple website/forums that do not recommend that PSU. While it may/will be enough for you to run your PC don't expect to OC with that power supply since it is probably the lowest rated Corsair power supply available. It's probably not enough for a really high end video card either. Do you live outside of the US? If there are any other power supplies near the VS550W price then tell us the model names. If you can buy online you should try to look for a a good cheap PSU online as it is really important for the stability of a computer.

If you go cheap on the powersupply you run the risks of the PC not working as intended. For one you won't be able to run a really powerful video card on a cheap power supply even if it has enough wattage. Second you won't be able to OC the CPU (or GPU). Finally if the power supply blows or dies it may take out other components in your system that can range from your motherboard, CPU, RAM, video card, etc.
 

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Don't even bother with the M5A78L-M/USB3. Look for a GA-78LMT-USB3. Significantly better motherboard. Supports memory multipliers all the way up to 2400MT/s if you want to tinker. Comes with heat-sunk VRMs. 4.4+ghz is almost guaranteed on this board unless you get a total crap chip.

My concern about the VS550 is the age. They've been discontinued awhile, which means, you could be buying capacitors nearly a decade old in that unit. I don't know anything about how well they are made...?

What are your other options? Super Flower? Seasonic? XFX? Antec? Delta? FSP? Anything else?
 
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well yes seasonic is available along with corsair and cooler master (but only selected products like vs 550, cx 400 and some more). can you please tell if one of these is good (its an indian company and all psus are available in the shop):

http://zebronics.com/product-category/platinum-series


and the shop only has m5a78. no gigabyte or msi. i even asked other shopkeepers but all of them are like asus' partners or something. what to do now? i only have 5 days. as soon as i get my salary i am going to build it.
 
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I live in india and here are two links. i request you to please find me a good psu. i dont want to waste money on a good psu but if it is really that important then pick any one. i will buy it.

http://www.flipkart.com/computers/computer-components/power-supply-units/pr?sid=6bo,g0i,qbk

http://www.snapdeal.com/products/computers-components?q=Type_s%3ASMPS+%26+Power+Supply|Price%3A237%2C43173&sort=plrty

one more thing. this brand is famous in india. please check it out:

http://zebronics.com/product-category/power-supplies
 

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Alright I took a look at the Zebronics brand and the problem I see is that the 12V+ Rails which are important have very little Amperage or A. The 600w version only has 27A and the 700w ~35A. In comparison my okay PSU has 50A on my 620W PSU. If I am remembering correctly you want higher 'A' numbers for running strong video cards and overclocking.

I'll double check on the links you provided and post again
 

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Yea when PSU's are being sold with 700W on the label and only 400W available on the 12V rail, run, run far far away from that brand. Can't be trusted. Probably manufactured by Andyson (raidmax) or SolyTec or worse. I'm envisioning a dirt floor sweat shop with lead solder fumes and abusive work conditions. Anyone who sells a PSU with those sort of false claims can't be trusted.

Another issue is heat.. India=hot right? Like, really hot? Like equatorial hot? Yea.. Poorly made PSU's can't handle the heat...

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On flipcart, you will find an OCZ ZS Series 650 Watts PSU. That's the best thing in it's price class on there. It's fairly inexpensive all things considered.
 

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IM just gonna troll and say get the i5-4440 and the Asrock H97 anniversary and have the best gaming performance for the same price of of a 6300, quality motherboard, and a quality cooler (not to mention the extra fans you may need to keep your whole system cool).
 

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I agree with modocod. The OCZ ZS 650W will be a good power supply that will support a decently strong video card and a CPU OC. As you are planning to OC the CPU if your FPS is a bit low I would go with the 650W. Spend a little more on the PSU, take a little longer to get the GPU you want, and save yourself from huge disasters in the future.



I have to say you did a good job trolling. 'Extra fans to keep the system cool...' any computer should have a good amount of fans and airflow. The OP is located in India so Intel might be out of the equation here as some other countries have ridiculous prices on Intel products.
 

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My troll response is not nearly as troll as you think. I simply mean my response was troll because he is asking about AMD and I swooped in to offer up intel (and I know I am totally the first person to ever do that:D) He said for his cabinet that he wants the cheapest possible. Cheaper cases don't usually include as many fans as they hold (if they even hold a lot of fans). Why would I assume he has already budgeted for them?

Secondly yes, that is India, equatorial hot India. Just because it is hot doesn't mean he should not be concerned about heat. It means he should be extra concerned about proper airflow. Others have already made mention of need for more fans. With intel at stock clock you can get away with a cheap case with one intake and a couple of exhaust fans, even when gaming, even with the stock cooler. Good luck with that with an AMD, that motherboard is gonna get nice and toasty.

You may be right or wrong about intel pricing but I doubt that AMD has a stronger foothold anywhere than Intel does. I cannot say for certain but given that he wants to game, has to worry about heat, and 970 boards run FX chips hot at stock clocks let alone overclocked it just seems like AMD is a recipe for trouble, while Intel is a set it and forget choice.
 

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1) When I called you trolling, it wasn't as serious as it might have sound. It was 50% joke kind of like how you worded/meant your original post.
2) Hopefully you didn't take my cooling comment as meaning a case comes with a good amount of cooling. I meant that any computer should be built with decent cooling whether you build with Intel or AMD. You're right that cheapest cases don't include that many fans but as long as the case has 4+ spots it should be good. OP can buy one by one when he has money. Not sure about why you should expect he has budgeted any money for the case.
3) Yes it's India and I never said he shouldn't worry about heat. I mentioned OP lives in India because every thread I see about purchasing from India or Australia they talk about how Intel is more expensive and not a choice for them.
4) 95W 6-Core/8-Cores don't run as hot as you think. If anything the FX CPUs come with beefier stock cooling and at stock clocks they work perfectly fine. If anything it's probably cheaper to build AMD and need a little more fans than going Intel and having 2 fans less in the case.
5) It's the poor Power Phase design on the 970 boards that lead to heat issues. Majority are 4+1/4+2 which isn't enough for 8-Cores and passible for 6-Cores. Boards like the 970A-UD3P would be a great 970 chipset motherboard.
6) OP is actually getting a 760G chipset (or looking to) which is from 2009 and worse than the 970. Gaming with FX CPUs at stock is perfectly fine even with stock cooling. It's only with OCing that you need a better aftermarket cooler which both Intel and AMD needs. Take into consideration Vishera CPUs can OC 500MHz most of the times without touching the voltage for the CPU. Aftermarket cooling and extra fans for the VRM/Socket is only needed when you start to venture into 1GHz+ OCing. Again though you and I both don't live in India so we don't know for sure how hot things will run.

It seems the OP knows perfectly well about Intel as he absolutely refused to hear any suggestions on i3,i5, and even AMD APUs and the stronger 8-Cores. Probably means he's read enough of their recommendations (Intel recomendations in AMD threads) while researching on his own. Which means he probably knows the pros vs cons of Intel and AMD. Seems like his plan is to get a decent budget gaming CPU and maximize with a pretty strong GPU. There will be bottlenecks compared to Intel CPUs, but the FX 6300 should perform perfectly fine if OP is only looking at offline single player games when paired with a strong video card.
 

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I didn't think that you thought I was really trolling, but sometimes it is hard to tell context in plain texts (acutally usually hard).

And I agree after rereading the thread it seems he is intent on his AMD purchase, so it's all a moot point.
 

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I think you may have just nailed my affection for AMD, as a tinkerer and hobbyist at heart I will always a soft spot for AMD and I encourage anyone who has the similar disposition to consider AMD for that aspect alone.
 
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Thanks for replying my friend but i am not interested in intel.
i know i5 4440 is a good processor. but i have an athlon, phenom and two of my friends are using 8320 and 4350.
AMD is like the most trusted brand for us. intel is good for those who do not have knowledge about computers. it may have slightly better single core performance but one has to remember that every module has only one core while amd has 2 cores/module. so intel will always have better single core performance.but when multiple cores are used fx will perform better.

also if i wanted to spend more money, i would buy fx 8350, which is cheaper than i5 4440 and more powerful. And after overclocking it will destroy i5.

i chose 6300 because it can run multiple things and a good cpu for medium budget. its not like i am making a $1000+ pc :pt1cable:

why waste money on cpu? graphics card is what matters.
 

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First off, That's perfectly fine, I used to own a 6300 and it was a beast.

I would recommend if you are getting 4GB of ram, get 2x2gb sticks as dual channel memory works alot better.
If you are planning to overclock, i would get the ASUS M5A97-EVO R2.0 Motherboard, Or ASUS M5A99X EVO Motherboard R2

If you are on a budget, Get the M5A78L-M usb 3.0 Motherboard
It will not overclock, nor does it have much features but it will be fine for a budget build :)

Good luck
 
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i am starting to like this site. a lot. i didnt know anything about chipset. thanks for that 960g comment. can you do me one more favor? can you please please please look at this page and tell me which motherboard to buy. i am thinking of buying motherboard and psu online as that ocz psu is not available in any shop and the shops mainly have asus motherboards for am3+ socket. please it is a request:

http://www.flipkart.com/computers/computer-components/motherboards/pr?p%5B%5D=facets.socket_type%255B%255D%3DAM3%252B&sid=6bo%2Cg0i%2Cy7i&ref=38b7d630-4089-4e8a-8d3b-5622f71ebcf6

thanks in advance.