CPU/GPU Upgrade for AMD8350+GTX670 system

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Superduderoni

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Hey guys, I need some help here in deciding my next step to getting a better PC.

Current specs:
GPU: GTX 670
CPU: AMD 8350@4GHz
RAM: 2x4 DDR3
128GB SSD+ 1TB HDD

Games I mostly play/will play and would like to see improvement in :

Arma 3
World of Warcraft
The Witcher 3
Evolve
StarCraft 2
H1Z1
Grey Goo

All in 1080p

I'm looking at upgrading either my GPU or my CPU and have a hard time deciding which.
What I've read is that my current processor has problems with games like WoW and SC2 due to them not effectively utilizing the amount of cores the AMD CPUs have so I suppose a CPU upgrade wouldn't be too bad for these games and the item I'm looking at is the i7-4790k but then I'd have to get a suitable motherboard as well. This could cost like 350 euros for me.

What also would cost 350 euros is a gtx 970. Since both of these options cost around the same, I'm looking for the one that provides the best average fps increase in the most of modern games. What also seems to be something I keep questioning is whether or not there will be new options available in the next 2-4 months and if I should wait until then to make my decision.

What do you think I should do, Tomshardware? Would there be bottlenecking? Maybe some other parts entirely? :)

 
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So you don't think there'd be bottleneck issues? I'm not very good at keeping up with the new hardware being released so I just need to be certain when going for these expensive parts. :) Thanks for helping out

 
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CX750M is what I've got at the moment. Is that one sufficient or would it hold back the GPU? :eek:
 
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WoW, SC2, and Arma games run poorly on PileDriver. There just aren't enough execution resources available to any single thread to run these games well. Given your list of hardware and software, your performance bottleneck is undoubtedly the CPU. Doesn't matter that it's "AMD's best CPU," it's still significantly slower than some of Intels worst in many of those games. Having a lot of cores and ghz sounds good on paper, but cores and ghz are not measures of execution performance in and of themselves.

My advise is to upgrade to a haswell i5-4690K. If you run it at 4ghz, it will produce 75% higher minimum FPS than your FX-8350 in congested conditions in WoW/SC2/Arma. That will provide you with the most useful increase in average performance.

Your GTX670 can play any game made at 60FPS 1080P. The ONLY thing stopping the GTX670 from reaching any practical frame rate that you might be after is CPU performance or unrealistic visual quality settings for the width of the render engine (there will be some games that you won't be able to play with every setting maxed out, but that's not unusual in PC gaming, unless you're running a 6X 1440P grid then you're already making visual quality compromises, 99% of PC gamers run a compromise of visual quality to get the performance they want in their budget)

Upgrading your GPU won't help performance at all, it will just let you run higher visual quality settings with the same performance you have now.

Anyone advising a GPU upgrade here obviously have no clue how computers work. Performance originates with the CPU, not the GPU.

In actuality, the GTX670 is on par performance wise with GTX960. Both cards are more than capable of absolutely slaughtering any game at 1080P.
 
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as someone above me said the gtx 670 is still more than enough for 1080p whats holding you back on Arma III, starcraft 2 is your 8320 not the gtx 670.
a gtx 670 is as fast as a r9 280/gtx 960 so theres no problem there.

my gtx 670 with i5 4590 still maxes out anything in 1080p

 
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Superduderoni

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Yeah, it seems like my AMD processor is very hit & miss with many games. Case in point, I just tried the Grey Goo games and on the lowest(!!) possible of graphics settings, I get around 15-20 fps on some of the campaign missions, measured with fraps. This seems so odd, I guess some games just aren't made with these kinds of processors in mind.

The 970 seems to be causing some controversy about the 4GB VRAM, maybe it's better for me to wait until that clears over too? Seems like a better idea to hold on for the future fixed 970ti instead I suppose.

mdocod recommended me to go with the haswell i5-4690K, is that the best bang-for-buck intel processor at the moment? Not worth the difference in performance between 4690k & 4790k?


 
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go 4690k is your planning on overclocking, if not go 4440 + h97 which will run you about 240$
 
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