AMD Zen To Be Featured Inside Summit Ridge Family of 14nm Processors – Rumored To Feature FM3 Socket Support and DDR4 Memory

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That's the AMD does again, this is for that one who always blame AMD.
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-featured-summit-ridge-family-14nm-processors-rumored-feature-fm3-socket-support-ddr4-memory-compatiblity/
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Kind of interesting, but too far away to speculate. It's still january of 2015, this is being talked about as scheduled for q3 of 2016? That's nearly 2 years away. Anything can happen by then. (q3 would be no sooner than july 2016). They're comparing to broadwell, yet skylake will be out by then and likely something else from intel.
Kind of interesting, but too far away to speculate. It's still january of 2015, this is being talked about as scheduled for q3 of 2016? That's nearly 2 years away. Anything can happen by then. (q3 would be no sooner than july 2016). They're comparing to broadwell, yet skylake will be out by then and likely something else from intel.
 
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Intel has really only been making small, incremental speed bumps and such. They aren't moving very fast on the desktop front at all.
 
No they aren't. They haven't had any real competition the past several years so nothing is pushing them like it used to. I think they've stagnated as well with like you said, slight incremental upgrades. Also working on other factors like die shrinks (they've dropped to 22nm and now to 14nm and amd is still on 32nm processes). I'm sure intel isn't showing their hand completely and likely has something else in the works. If consumers are aware of the potential of zen, so is intel and they have years to perfect what they have and build something new to handle zen's competition.
 

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I think both are best in its class. ... It's like Asus vs Gigabyte, Ford vs shevy, apple vs Samsung :/ , both are best in its class, the main problem is that Intel has implemented a big implementation in the market by their advertisements and all and the statement that "Intel is best" becomes a part of a DNA of lots of people, I think it is incomplete statement actually Intel is best in its class by its performance. And now about AMD, no one can beat AMD's APUs as they are great. Intel has more performance than AMD but it is incomplete without Nvidia. Intel HD is worst. AMD are fulfil in itself by their APUs CPUs and unleashed graphics cards, but lots of people blaming AMD (even they are using their CPUs and graphics cards without any problem, that's the main thing) by lots of fullish reasons. AMD gives more performance with same price than Intel or Nvidia in performance and graphics. Also with some heating problem and power hungryness, they are not problems at all. .... conclusion is both are best in its class. .....:)
 
I think skewing off of a particular comparison delving into mobile and other avenues is a bit like trying to compare John Deere to Chevy. How do you make that comparison, one makes autos the other makes farm equipment. A direct comparison would be Ford cars to Chevy cars or Ford trucks to Chevy trucks for it to be meaningful. Amd does have an edge for apu's, but intel doesn't rely on nvidia for anything.

They certainly didn't buy up nvidia the way amd did ati. Everyone wants to say intel is nothing without nvidia, is amd special just because they slapped their name on ati? They certainly had nothing to do with ati's success or developments. At this point, since amd bought out and took over ati, who else would intel go to for graphics? Not amd and that leaves nvidia so if amd fans aren't happy about that, they only have amd to blame. Maybe had amd bought up nvidia instead, it would be the other way around.

Intel integrated graphics are pretty low end, but if amd didn't have an already established gpu manufacturer to make their integrated graphics for them I think it would look a lot like the cpu comparisons. I'm sure if intel had nvidia gpu's embedded into their apu's they'd easily surpass amd there as well. I have a feeling it was a good move for amd to pick up ati, that's pretty much what's been carrying them both in the gpu and apu market. Without ati, amd would already have gone the way of cyrix.

Apu's have a place and a time, but they're not fully capable entities for serious work whether workstation or gaming based. Which is why desktops continue to survive despite being forecasted they'd be long gone by now. Phones and tablets are cute for travel and taking pics, doing a few doodles or playing flash games on fb, but beyond that they just lack the horsepower. That's more or less by design. You can't have both power and portability in the same unit due to heat restrictions, size restrictions, power restrictions (battery life).