Recently got the seidon 120v cooler master Still Hot Temps

mlp353 · Jan 27, 2015

I just got the Seidon 120v and a new mobo today my idling temps are 50-55 while gaming are 65-78 its is slightly cooler then the stock cooler that i switched out but im wondering did i do anything wrong i hear and read reviews about people getting 20-30 celcius at idle and a max of 50 at full load or gaming any suggestions would be nice heres a video of someone putting it together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXHgtJJ1r8

mlp353 · Jan 27, 2015

also i crancked all my fan speeds up to 60% minimum should i crank them all up to max? 2000rpm?

Darkbreeze · Jan 27, 2015

With the system under load at it's highest temp, try pressing down with medium pressure on the top of the waterblock/heatsink and watch the temp sensors to see if temps decrease. If temps decrease there is either a problem with the paste job or you have the incorrect mounting pressure.

If that happens, you may have used too much or too little thermal interface material (Paste) or need to increase the mounting pressure.

If temps do not change when applying pressure then it's possible you have too little airflow through the case as a result of insufficient case fan cooling or possibly misconfigured the radiator and fan arrangement.

Lastly, it's possible you have a problem with the unit such as the pump being faulty or connected to the wrong header or radiator fans incorrectly connected. The radiator fan(s) should be connected to the primary CPU header on the motherboard while the pump should be connected to the secondary cpu fan header. If your board only has a single cpu fan header, which is uncommon, other solutions will necessarily need to be implemented.

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

What are your full system specs including cpu, motherboard, power supply, gpu, case, number of fans, orientation, any overclocking, radiator fans as push or pull, etc.

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

i have a mini itx r9 270x amd athlon 760k and ana88xm gaming mobo and my case i dont know the only way my seidon would fit is if i put it where the back case fan was, so now the case fan is now on the top pulling hot air out i belive. but i dont think its due to airflow because my gpu AND MOBO TEMPS ARE 30-35 C

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

i have 1 cpu fan connector and 2x system fan connectors but i dont belive u need 2 or even if u did plug both into 2 cpu fan connectors. Im 99% its 1 into cpu fan connector and 1 into system fan connector. i also have the radiator fan pulling air into it. iv tried both ways tho not better

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

You're right, it only has one CPU fan connector. You need to get a PWM fan cable splitter and run both the radiator and the pump off of that. Running the radiator fan or the pump off anything else will cause issues. Running the pump off of a case fan header is inadequate, because as you say, the motherboard temps are low and case fan speed, specifically, power to the case fan headers and thus anything connected to them, will be slow as well. Since the motherboard and GPU temps are low, speed to the pump is not increased in proportion to the CPU temperature or if using the case fan header for the radiator, then radiator fan speed is not being increased in proportion to the CPU temps.

Just to test the theory, if your cooler came with a 4 pin molex adapter, use that to power either the pump or the radiator fan and connect the other to the CPU header. Retest temps.

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

i have already tried switching them around in the beginning i belive it helped some but not a bunch. Also 1 connector is a 3 pin and one connector is a 4 pin. if i need this cord as u say could u provide a link from newegg please? Also will my pc be fine running and gamming until i get this new cord? my temps never exceed 70 c

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

I didn't say to "switch them around". You need to get power to either the radiator fan or pump, from the CPU header, and then whichever is not on the CPU fan header needs to get full power from one of the big four pin molex cables coming from the power supply by using an adapter that often comes with cooling products, unless you use a splitter. Don't use either the pump or the radiator fan on one of the other fan headers on the motherboard as it's NOT going to increase the fan voltage in order to make it spin faster when the CPU temp starts raising.

If you have either the radiator fan or pump connected to the system fan, they will not work correctly. System fans ONLY increase voltage when the system sensor says it's hot and if the motherboard itself is cool but the CPU is hot, that's a problem. You can believe me or not, as you choose.

If you read the thread at the following link, you will see that if the pump or radiator fan are connected to the system (case) fan header, it will only run at about 20% of the correct speed and will not increase in proportion to the temperature of the processor which changes thousands of times per second, as compared to other components which heat and cool much more slowly. It only takes a CPU a few seconds change 25°C or more under full load.

http://community.coolermaster.com/index.php/topic/11644-what-to-do-with-liquid-cooling-and-only-one-cpu-fan-header/

Here is the splitter you need so that both the pump and radiator fan can be connected to the CPU header:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162026&cm_re=pwm_splitter-_-12-162-026-_-Product

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

ok thanks i understand but i dont belive that is the right cable the 3 pin on the pump has no space, its not a "4" pin with a pin knocked out, just 3 pins
looks like this https://www.google.com/search?q=3+pin+cpu+fan+connector&biw=1440&bih=777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FpHIVMH2MIqlyAT9_IDACQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#imgdii=_&imgrc=aQj-0BH3s9808M%253A%3BK_DWunGjDnqDkM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww1.dealextreme.com%252Fproductimages%252Fsku_58087_3.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.dealfocal.com%252FComputer-Cables-Adapters-3-Pin-Male-to-Female-Connection-Extension-Cable-for-Cooling-Fan-60CM-Length--23303.html%3B600%3B600

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

3 pin fan connectors will connect to ANY four pin PWM socket or cable. Since the motherboard connector is 4 pin, the splitter needs to be a 4 pin pwm connector as well. Those 3 pin connectors will also connect to 4 pin headers on the board so I'd highly suggest you connect that 3 pin to the four pin motherboard header and run the fan for the radiator off one of the system fan headers for now. The pump being at full speed when the cpu is hot is probably more important than the radiator fan.

This: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/311884-28-connecter-help

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

ok i understand what ur saying what im saying is the cable link u provied wont connect to my 3 pin because there is a space between the pins

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

You're talking about the 3 pin on the fan or pump cable? It will, and it's right. All four pin motherboard headers are the same. There are NO different versions. The fan or pump connectors will plug into the two "sockets" on the splitter, which has cutouts for the key on the connector. All three pins are the same and all four pins are the same an all three pins will work on all four pin sockets.

mlp353 · Jan 28, 2015

ok so after i get it do i plug the 4 pin radiator fan into the 4 pin on the splitter or the other way around and plug the 3 pin pump into the 4 pin side of the splitter?

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

The end of the splitter with one connection, that looks different from the other two, will go on the motherboard CPU FAN header. The pump and radiator fan will plug into the remaining two sockets.

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

It doesn't matter which goes into the socket with the missing pin. It's only there for a reference signal and it only needs one reference signal, not two.

Darkbreeze · Jan 28, 2015

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1644376/pin-fan-splitter-work-missing-pin.html

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