Viable Gaming Build?

vvilltaylor

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Hello,

I am a student and I'm looking to upgrade my 4-5 year old computer which has held strong up until now. Currently I'm running a dual core 3.6 ghz processor with a GT 520 and 6gB RAM in it. It's a Lenovo prebuilt and I've put some parts in it as well.

My budget is around 700-800 dollars (the lower preferred) and I've made 2 build online.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nFMB99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nFMB99/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $614.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YPH6Lk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YPH6Lk/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($164.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($123.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $742.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I live in Canada, so I am not too sure how many of these will turn out for shipping costs and what not, so I went safe and had the prices a little bit lower.

I intend to install Windows 7 (or 8 if I can get my hands on a copy) through USB.

My questions are:

Are these builds good (I do not plan to expect to play full graphics on graphic intensive games for the next 4 years - but moderate graphics in the future and high graphics now)?

Will this last?

Will all the parts fit? My case seems to not have front USB which could be an issue, if it is, any suggestions?

Is the graphics card I've chosen really that good? I've read reviews on it and it seems to be good, however usually over priced (on PCbuilder it was lower than I had expected). Also, the higher end graphics cards that seem to be above this one are much too far out of my price range, so I feel that this would be a good option, especially because it has better performance than the regular 750 version.

I don't expect prices to be completely accurate, as I'm in Canada, and many of them include mail-in rebates (which to be honest I would not mind doing to save that extra $60-80.

Let me know what you think and if this helped you out then great!

Will
 
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pcparts picker has canadian prices... its up in the top right corner.

that said, shipping from the usa would be absurd. you should be getting your parts from canadian dealers, unless of course your coming to the states and bringing the computer back with you.

otherwise if this is purely for gaming your better off going with an i3 over any fx processor. here is a quick build up and an i3+r9-280 is going to be considerably faster than an fx 8 core+750ti. windows 8 is a better os, just install the classic shell if you dont like the metro crap.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($134.95 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX...

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($182.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $740.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 22:25 EST-0500
 

slyu9213

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If you stick with AMD you should look at the FX 6300 which the 6-Cores will make it a better option than the FX 4300 but be cheaper than the FX 8350. I would also look at what you can put together with a locked Intel i5 too.
 
pcparts picker has canadian prices... its up in the top right corner.

that said, shipping from the usa would be absurd. you should be getting your parts from canadian dealers, unless of course your coming to the states and bringing the computer back with you.

otherwise if this is purely for gaming your better off going with an i3 over any fx processor. here is a quick build up and an i3+r9-280 is going to be considerably faster than an fx 8 core+750ti. windows 8 is a better os, just install the classic shell if you dont like the metro crap.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($134.95 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.61 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.05 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($107.72 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $799.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 22:38 EST-0500

if your talking usd prices...


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Tri-X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $801.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 22:47 EST-0500
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.24 @ Directron)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Tri-X Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.59 @ Directron)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($57.02 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $698.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 22:47 EST-0500

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($134.95 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.61 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($61.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.95 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($107.72 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $794.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-30 22:52 EST-0500
 

vvilltaylor

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OP here,

I'm curious as to why only intels are suggested? Is AMD really that bad? I currently have an AMD in my computer, dual core and 3.6ghz. Whats the main difference and why is it more suggested?

In theory wouldn't 8 cores be better than 4 or especially 2?

I am able to travel to the states as I'm close to the border so I could get everything for US price. However if it happens that I can't thanks for the Canadian prices!

Lastly, is the radeon 290/290X (or 280X) that much better than the GT 720 Ti?
I know NVIDIA is great and so are the Radeon graphics cards, but will it provide that much more power?

I'd consider myself slightly above average in knowledgability (I do believe I just created that word) in this area, so please excuse my ignorance to the more specific details.

Thanks again for your responses!

Will
 

slyu9213

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An AMD 8-Core would be leagues better than your AMD Dual-Core honestly. Even an AMD Quad-Core would make a huge difference in gaming from an AMD Dual-Core. People are recommending Intel mostly because (no matter how much I love AMD) Intel are the King of the hill right now, especially in gaming performance (and other things as well). You can buy a locked i5 that is clocked slower than an FX 8XXX, runs cooler, a little bit more expensive and perform better than the best AMD has to offer. You also can pull better numbers out of the same video cards compared to AMD. That being said you'll have to make the final decision.

When looking at Newegg Canada site the cheapest i5 seems to be ~$220 for the slowest i5. On the other hand you can get an FX 8310 on TigerDirect for $139 CAD. That's almost an $100 difference for the CPUs where they don't perform terribly different in gaming. Add a motherboard for each build. A decent cheap H97 mobo like the D3H is ~$95 CAD on Newegg and a decent AM3+ mobo like MSI 970 Gaming is like $109 CAD after rebates. Total price for CPU and Mobo is $315 for Intel and $248 for AMD. At this kind of price point it's safer to go with the Intel build in my opinion. In comparison the same AMD build that cost $248 CAD would cost $170-180 in the US while the Intel would cost $270. Question will be for US is $100 more for an i5 over an FX 8-Core worth it? For you is $60 canadian dollar difference worth it? Yes in my opinion for you. Not sure about the difference in US dollars