2TB HDD Shrunk to 1TB after adding clone

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How to retain 2TB HDD size, after adding clone backup?

(1) Added internal 2TB Western Digital HDD, for backup storage.
(2) Cloned OEM 1TB HDD, added into 2TB HDD for backup.
(3) 2TB WD HDD now showing only 1TB in size.
(4) WD Support = […] Do not know, ask DELL.
(5) DELL Support = […] Do not know, ask WD.
(6) What went wrong? Where to start for correction?
(7) [mature] New user. (Please don’t abbreviate reply)

Hardware - New DELL Desktop OptiPlex 9020.
w/OEM 1TB Seagate HDD, Sys7Pro.
> > > Thank you in advance for advice or direction.
 
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Well, IF you need to Partition and Format, Win 7 makes it relatively easy. You use Disk Management to "see" the HDD you want to work on. If it already has one or more Partitions on it that you do NOT want to keep anything from, you can RIGHT-click on each and choose to Delete it. After doing that I would back out and reboot to be sure Windows has the info correct in its Registry (may not be necessary), then go back into Disk Management. Now the HDD is exactly like a brand new empty HDD. You use Disk Management (again) and RIGHT-click on that HDD's Unallocated Space and choose the "Create a new Simple Volume". This will actually do both the Partitioning and Formatting in one combined operation. You will be offered a default group of...

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With most of the cloning tools I have used (including WD's free package, Acronis True Image WD Edition) they offer a default group of settings at the beginning and ask you to confirm that they are acceptable before actually making the clone copy. Usually the default is that the copy will be placed in a new Partition on the Destination HDD that is the SAME size as the Source drive. So that is what you got. The remainder of your new 1 TB HDD is still Unallocated Space available to create another Partition.

There are three ways you can proceed:
1. Using Windows' built-in utility Disk Management, RIGHT-click on that new 1 TB Partition containing the clone copy and see if you have an option to Expand it to include all the Unallocated Space.
2. Re-do the cloning process. When you do, first Delete the existing Partition. Then use the menu system to change the settings so that the size of the new Partition is the full size of the new 2TB unit. THEN tell the cloning utility to proceed.
3. Don't try to make that Partition bigger. You do not tell us how you plan to make and update the backup copies. If you insist on making each backup by cloning the 1 TB C: drive to take up ALL of the 2 TB HDD's space, that means you will never have an old backup stored. You will only have the most recent one, and you'll wipe it out completely to make way for a new one. BUT you could do this instead: Each time you make a clone copy to be your backup of the entire C: drive, tell the cloning utility to make it ONLY the size you need to hold the contents of C:, and NOT a full 1TB. (You could re-do your first clone copy this way right now.) Then the NEXT clone copy can be made to the Unallocated Space still available, with its size similarly set. Now you have the latest backup plus an older one. You might even manage to fit a third clone on that 2 TB unit. Eventually you will delete the oldest clone Partition to make it Unallocated Space, and use that to make a new "backup" clone. The problem with this strategy, though, is that by the time you make your fourth clone copy, it probably will need more space than the first one did, and it may NOT fit within the Unallocated Space freed up by Deleting the first Partition. So planning ahead, make each clone's Partition somewhat larger than is needed, in hopes that later when you try to re-use that space the new clone will fit. Depending on how much stuff is on your 1 TB C: drive and how it may expand, you might be able to keep two or three clone "backups" on one 2 TB unit.
 

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Thank you Paperdoc (above) for your input

Thought adding a 2nd internal HDD, and backing up a days work would be easy. Didn’t realize it involved HDD programming knowledge, adding partitions, configurations, allocations, and etc. before even using a new HDD.

Guess I’ll start all over again. Low level format the new HDD, than research articles on how to ready a HDD from the ground up. Any suggestions on a simple straight forward step by step instruction site? Most available are for XP only. (mine Sys7Pro) (same process?)

What ever happened to Plug ‘n Play?
Is this commonplace for everyone that simply wants to back up to an internal HDD?

Original backup plan.
(1) Add second internal HDD in tower desktop
(2) Low level format HDD, followed by Full backup.
(3) Set up daily differential backups.
(4) Backups to proceed after clicking “Shut Down”.
(5) Backup program to turn off computer after backup completed.

 

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Well, IF you need to Partition and Format, Win 7 makes it relatively easy. You use Disk Management to "see" the HDD you want to work on. If it already has one or more Partitions on it that you do NOT want to keep anything from, you can RIGHT-click on each and choose to Delete it. After doing that I would back out and reboot to be sure Windows has the info correct in its Registry (may not be necessary), then go back into Disk Management. Now the HDD is exactly like a brand new empty HDD. You use Disk Management (again) and RIGHT-click on that HDD's Unallocated Space and choose the "Create a new Simple Volume". This will actually do both the Partitioning and Formatting in one combined operation. You will be offered a default group of settings which you ca approve or change. Usually there are only two things you MIGHT want to change. You may want to customize the size of the Partition you are creating. And the Partition does NOT need to be Bootable if you are going to use it solely for data, and not try to put an OS there to boot from.

HOWEVER, your case might be slightly different, depending on how you plan to do your backup system. If you plan to buy and use a backup software package (or download a free one), follow its instructions on how to set up the HDD that receives the backups. On the other hand, you started out proposing to use a cloning tool to make a complete clone of your C: drive to the second HDD. Now most clone tools I've used include menu choices to Delete any specified old Partition if you need to. And virtually all will do the two initial steps - Create a Partition and Format it - for you as their first steps. If you are cloning a bootable HDD, it will automatically make this clone Partition bootable, too. so if you are cloning you do NOT need to Partition and Format ahead of time.

The "original backup plan" you outline includes many parts of a standard plan. I think you would find it much easier to do that using a backup software package that can keep track of all the changed files that need inclusion in each day's incremental backup. It is almost impossible to do that manually and simply copy files every day. And a cloning tool will not do that.

Your plan does have flaws, though, compared to an optimal backup system. One a backup is made to some storage medium, two things should be done with it. It should be disconnected from all electrical power to prevent accidental damage. And it should be removed and stored in a different location. These two steps prevent the following kinds of damage to the backup:
1. Accidental alterations by writing to the wrong drive.
2. Alterations due to acquired malware on your computer.
3. Power surges and sags.
4. Flood, fire, theft, etc. at the computer site.
For all these reasons, mounting your "backup" drive inside your computer permanently is a bad idea. The most popular type of backup device for home users is a portable hard drive which you can plug in to make a backup or restore, and disconnect and remove to another location when not doing those operations.
 
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Gal-xc

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Thank you kindly Paperdoc for taking the time for the detailed and precise reply, rather than a canned response. Will pursue your advice and proceed as recommended.
 

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