700$ - 850$ Budget for a build - Serbia - Need opinions

Avramito · Feb 4, 2015

Hello, I'm planning on replacing my 3-year old PC, and I've come up with a build that costs almost 700$. I would like your opinion on it, most importantly regarding whether if it will be sufficient enough to run newer games like GTA V, Far Cry 4, DA:I and similar, at 1920x1080 resolution, and what kind of performance can I expect.

Aproximate purchase date: Hopefully in a month's time
Budget range: ~700$, however I might stretch it to 850$, more on that below
System usage: Mostly gaming and surfing the internet
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred website: Emmi - As far as I can tell, they have the best offers in Serbia
Location: Novi Sad, Serbia
Overclocking: No
SLI/Crossfire: No
Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional comments: My current available budget is ~700$, however I might stretch it to 850$. As such, I will also list the parts I was thinking of getting if I manage to get a higher budget.

Now, for the build itself.

CPU: LGA1150 Intel® Core™ i3-4160, 3.60GHz BOX 22nm - RSD 14599 ($138, 700$ budget) OR LGA1150 Intel® Core™ i5-4460, 3.2GHz BOX 22nm - RSD 22499 ($212, 850$ budget)
MOBO: LGA1150 H81 Asus H81M-K, PCIe/DDR3/SATA3/GLAN/7.1 - RSD 5399 ($51)
HDD: SATA3 7200 1TB WD Blue WD10EZEX, 64MB - RSD 7199 ($68)
RAM: DIMM DDR3 2x4GB 1600MHz Patriot Viper 3 Black, PVL38G160C9K - RSD 8999 ($85) I chose this one because it is $33 cheaper than the equivalent Kingston memory they have in store.
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 270X Powercolor TurboDuo 2GB, DVI/HDMI/AXR9 270X 2GBD5-TDHE/OC - RSD 20999 ($198, 700$ budget) OR GeForce GTX760 MSI GAMING OC 2GB DDR5, DVI/HDMI/DP/256bit/N760 TF 2GD5/OC - RSD 25699 ($243, 850$ budget)
PSU: 630W Thermaltake Smart SPS-630M GOLD 90% eff. Modular, PS-SPS-0630MPC - RSD 8499 ($80) Is 630W too much for either of these builds? If so, I could go for a cheaper one and save a few bucks.
Optical drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE/SATA/ black, 24XDVD/16xDVD-RAM - RSD 1899 ($18)
Case: AW Eagle C850 Black, 2x12cm Fan/USB 3.0/Tool-Free/Modular - RSD 4799 ($45)

There you have it. To reiterate, will either of these builds be enough to run current games and how will they perform? Also, if I had to choose between a better CPU or a better GPU, which of these listed parts would you go for?

I'm looking forward to your opinions and thanks in advance!

geofelt · Feb 4, 2015

A month is a long time, and things will change.

My thoughts:

You have a good start.
In general, the graphics card is the critical component for a gamer.
I like the GTX960 which should be appropriate.
It is a power efficient card, able to run on as little as a 430w psu.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
Still, I would make that a 500-620w psu to permit a future graphics upgrade.

Few games will use more than 2 cores. I think you would generally game better with a fast i3-4160 or such.
If you are adverse to overclocking, a H81 motherboard is fine. You have an upgrade path to a i7-4790K which will run at 4.0/4.4 stock.
Still, I would look for a Z97 based motherboard. That gives you better upgrade options. To a i5-4690K or a future 14nm broadwell cpu.

On the psu, buy only a top quality unit. Thermaltake is suspect.
Look for Seasonic, xfx,antec.
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true

WD blue is a bit slow, black would be better.
FWIW.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, you may never need a hard drive.
I don't.
I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice.
Intel 730 is OK too.

loki1944 · Feb 4, 2015

If you want to run a higher settings for those games at 1080p, get an R9 280; it's the best price to performance mid end GPU out right now. Also get an i5, doesn't need to be a K, really I would recommend stretching your budget to include an R9 290, about as good as a 970 and $70 cheaper plus it has all 4GB of VRAM at full speed unlike the 970 which has .5 GB at a much slower speed. I don't know what prices are like in Siberia, but this is how it looks stateside.with an R9 280:
Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $184.99
ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $45.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.00
Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $59.99
XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card $194.99
Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.89
Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer $19.99
+your computer case=$677.82

Going with an R9 290 instead would bring the total to $732.82.

As far as performance look at this for DA:I, keeping in mind that even though the 280 isn't on there it outperforms a 760 and 270X and comes in below a 285: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/dragon_age_inquisition_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,7.html

Far Cry 4: http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/far-cry-4-test-gpu.html

Avramito · Feb 4, 2015

If it means anything, the build I've been using for the past 3 years is:
Athlon II X3 455 3.3Ghz
GeForce GTX460SE 1GB GDDR5
4GB DDR3
1TB HDD

So you have an idea what I'll be upgrading from. I'll be leaving this build to a family member.

@geofelt

Haha, you're right. Considering how things work here, this 700$ build will end up costing more.

Anyhow, regarding your suggestions. I'll stick with an H81 board, because I don't plan on doing any upgrades for a long time after buying this. A Z97 board is almost twice the price of the one I linked.

As for the PSU, I checked that list and found this Tier 2 PSU for just a few dollars more 650W ThermalTake Toughpower Modular 80+ GOLD, 14cm/PS-TPD-0650MPCGEU-1. Seasonic is the only top quality brand we have here and they are way more expensive than the rest (the cheapest being $105)...

You're right about the HDD, I'll also be using it to store videos and similar, so I'll stick with that instead of an SSD for now.

Thanks for the input!

@loki1944

The prices are generally higher than what you would find in the States, depending on the retailer. They import everything and there's an additional tax on most electronics, adding to the higher price.

There aren't any R9 280s on the market here, at the moment, and R9 280Xs go for at least $289 (unless those are the same cards, I'm not really informed on this matter), while an R9 290 would go for $377. I hope this gives you an idea on how prices go here.

I might be able to stretch my budget to get an R9 280X while keeping the i3-4160, as taking an i5 with that GPU would put me way over the budget.
If I can't stretch it, would you still say I'd be making a good purchase for the time being?

Thanks for the input!

loki1944 · Feb 5, 2015

Avramito :

Yes, for the time being, and you can always upgrade to an i5 later on that haswell platform which will be relevant for years (even my Bloomfield i7 960 is still plenty good for today's high end games with a modern GPU). I would definitely get the 270X over the 760 to save money and get about the same performance (GTX 760 is a bit better http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1043), I will say that with some more demanding titles I regularly go over 2GB of VRAM on maximum settings, but if you turn down a couple of settings like lowering AA or using FXAA then you should be fine with 2GB of VRAM at 1080p. I wouldn't bother getting a 4GB 760 because it won't utilize it with it's narrow bus unless you get two of them and go SLI. 280X is better than a 280/285/760/960 and trades blows with the GTX 770. Also the 280X has 3GB of VRAM, if you can swing it, that's the card I would get, but 270X or 760 are still viable options. You guys really get worked over on prices, those are some very expensive cards over there.

Avramito · Feb 5, 2015

Great, thanks for your answers. They've been very helpful!

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