780ti or 980 for 1440p BF4 gaming

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I originally planned on getting a 980 for about $615. However, I'm able to get a new MSI 780ti for $445. The purpose of the buy is to get great single GPU performance specifically for BF4 at 1440p with Asus 144Hz monitor. Would you buy the 980 or 780ti? Please don't suggest the 970. But add any comments.
 
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Difficult decision, 780Ti and 980 are very close performance-wise and 170 bucks difference for like 5% or so boost 980 offers over 780Ti makes it no brainer really - 780Ti is the better choice.

The wildcard here is the fact that 980 comes with additional 1GB VRAM and since you game at 1440p you MIGHT have a use of that.


Basically, the question is whether you can compromise a couple of FPS and be less future-proof, but save 170 bucks now.

I'd say - go for 780Ti, because 980 is really raw as it is... It's a product of Nvidia being late on shifting to a more advanced process, they pulled out a new architecture, but stayed on 28nm process, which is OLD now - this is what 980 is.

Seeing how AMD is preparing a new weapon of mass...
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I'd get the 980. If you already made peace with spending the money then get the best silicon you can get your hands on. 144hz is a real challenge even with games from a little while back, and you'll be lucky to get there and I'd be willing to bet you'll still need to turn some settings down.

Personally I wouldn't invest in a 144hz monitor at all. Assuming I had a fairly big but not infinite pile of cash to spend from I'd definitely save a few bucks on the monitor and spend that on basically anything else, even if that just means a gaming keyboard and a nice headset. Without going SLi you simply won't be able to get to 144hz going forward (even assuming you can do it with any modern games at all) so you'll almost never be making use of that extra investment. Essentially any other improved component in your system will get more use than a super-high end monitor unless you sink perhaps double or more into your gpu and that's just sadly the way things are now.
 
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Difficult decision, 780Ti and 980 are very close performance-wise and 170 bucks difference for like 5% or so boost 980 offers over 780Ti makes it no brainer really - 780Ti is the better choice.

The wildcard here is the fact that 980 comes with additional 1GB VRAM and since you game at 1440p you MIGHT have a use of that.


Basically, the question is whether you can compromise a couple of FPS and be less future-proof, but save 170 bucks now.

I'd say - go for 780Ti, because 980 is really raw as it is... It's a product of Nvidia being late on shifting to a more advanced process, they pulled out a new architecture, but stayed on 28nm process, which is OLD now - this is what 980 is.

Seeing how AMD is preparing a new weapon of mass destruction soon, and Nvidia as well going to move to more advanced process at release an inevitable refresh of 980 pretty soon too (the REAL 980 and not the half-baked thing we have now), I'd say - go for 780Ti, so you spare yourself from banging your head on a wall in three months seeing your 980 crash and burn both in performance leaderboards and price.

So I'd take a very adequate and great-performing 780Ti and save those 170 bucks for a massive upgrade next year.
 
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GTX 980 vs GTX 780 ti . If you get a chance check out DigitalFoundry 's channel comparisons , There is a GTX 980 vs GTS 780 ti. R9 290X and a GTX 780 for 4K and the 980 runs away with it.
there might be a 1440p vid but here is a Link to 4K vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmbpof7bh0w

GTX 980 is the better GPU , the newer Maxwell architecture is simply superior. I am not go in depth on this , so Check out some reviews on it, make sure it is what you need and enjoy.

EDIT: 1440p vid here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEOK6Hf4h8
 
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Out of the 2, the 980 with 1 more GB of memory will be a better card for 1440p.

This may seem not part of your choices, but have you looked at a R9 290 / 290x? They're pretty cheap now, and still has great 1440p performance.
 
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The reason I stated 1440p is that I will get a 27" 1440p fast monitor. And right now the only one that meets that criteria is the Asus ROG Swift, which is 144Hz, but I can dial it down to 80Hz. I'd be fine with a 60Hz 1440p monitor but there just aren't any fast ones out there. I'm waiting for some price competition too with the FreeSync ones coming out soon?

I was leaning towards 980 but I'm not sure I'll gain that much performance for the price. An extra 5fps? Also the 290 or 290x is below the 780ti so I'm not considering them.
 
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Not a good idea... 290X is pretty excellent for that resolution and comes with 4GB VRAM and it supports mantle for BF4... it's like getting best of both worlds.

Here you go official review by this site: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-8.html

Scroll BF4 results - 1080p 290X = 780Ti... 4k - 290X stomps 780Ti (exactly because vram, I assume).

So mid-way to 4k - 290X is actually better for you and cheaper.


Also... why such expensive monitor? 144Hz? Even 980 can't push that high at at that resolution, you would be lucky if it does a consistent 60fps...
 
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If you want 27" 1440p 1or2ms, then there is only Asus ROG 144Hz monitor. I don't need 144Hz but that is the only choice. I'd like to get a minimum of 60fps playing 64player maps at Ultra 2xMSAA. That's why I am skipping on the 290x. It is a great GPU for the price. Actually, its insanely good but I need a little more plus I prefer Nvidia GPUs. I have owned 2 Nvidia GPUs and now a AMD one. The Nvidia one had less issues so I prefer that route.

Here is a chart that compares GPUs at 1600p. And the 780ti beats the 290x by 8fps. 59 vs 67fps. That is significant enough that I prefer the 780ti.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/02/10/msi_geforce_gtx_780_ti_gaming_3g_video_card_review/4#.VNNkVJ2Udps

Sorry guys I don't use youtube videos. I prefer benchmarks by tomshardware, hardocp,.... Seem more reliable.
 
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You really can't go wrong with either as I used to have a 780 Ti and stepped up to the 980 from EVGA. The 780 Ti is still a monster of a video card and 3GB of VRAM is not really an issue for that game unless you do something stupid like 200% scaling and MSAA x4. Go with the cheaper option
 
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Yeah. I think I'll go 780ti. I'm going to be buying an expensive monitor and it would be nice to cut overall cost a little. Monitor + 780Ti = ~$1150. That is no small change to me. Saving around $170 sounds good. Just gotta hope the 780ti is still available when I return to my country.

Thanks for all your help.
 
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If saving money matters then just don't buy the GSync 144hz monitor. There will be almost no games where you can achieve that kind of frame rate unless you turn the detail down a long way. There are plenty of modern games that won't get to 144fps even on SLi Titans etc. Get a normal monitor, save that money, be happy with 60fps.
 
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It's not that I want a 144Hz monitor. I want a 27" 2560x1440p 1or2ms one. And the only monitor that fits that criteria is Asus's 144Hz monitor. I'd prefer a 60Hz one but there isn't 1440p on 60Hz monitors. I am going to wait until March before buying a monitor so maybe there will be more options then.

However, since the Asus ROG Swift does reach beyond 60Hz I could play games at 80fps with less AA using a decent GPU. I don't care about trying to get beyond 100fps.
 
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