Intel Pentium G2130 vs AMD A8-7600 BUDGET build

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If you're going to rely on the integrated graphics, even for light gaming, the AMD chips is easily the best choice. Plus the A8-7600 is a four core chip while the G2130 has only two cores and no hyperthreading so it only processes two threads, unlike the i3 which does four.

Honestly, in this case, the A8 is probably better. If you can up the ante to include an i3, that would be better if you plan to add a discrete graphics card of just about any level later. Otherwise, stay with the A8.
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If you're going to rely on the integrated graphics, even for light gaming, the AMD chips is easily the best choice. Plus the A8-7600 is a four core chip while the G2130 has only two cores and no hyperthreading so it only processes two threads, unlike the i3 which does four.

Honestly, in this case, the A8 is probably better. If you can up the ante to include an i3, that would be better if you plan to add a discrete graphics card of just about any level later. Otherwise, stay with the A8.
 
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Keep the 8GB if you can afford it. It's not THAT much more than 4GB and the APU uses the system memory for graphics so it's better to have as much and as fast of RAM as you can afford when using chips with integrated graphics. IF you were using a discrete gaming card and only doing light gaming, it wouldn't be as crucial, but even then the 8GB would be nice to have considering it's unknown what requirements future titles may require and if you have to add an unmatched module it's not going to be AS compatible as a pair of matched sticks.
 
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In fact, this would be a much better build. At least this case comes with a rear 120mm exhaust fan, and I've included a front 120mm fan, that other case just has a single 90mm fan, which is not sufficient.

I also upgraded you to a 450w Antec PSU, which might be a good idea in case you decide to add a cheap GPU card later, plus it's a better unit than the Basiq model.

Lower latency RAM. Normally, not a BIG deal, but again, since the integrated graphics rely on it, every edge helps.

Much faster APU with a better graphics package. Overall, much better component selection for only a few bucks more. If you wanted to stick with the APU you had selected and keep the rest of the changes, it would actually cost less than your build.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-6790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-DS2H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-C2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.91 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($10.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $359.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-07 16:42 EST-0500
 
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Why are you leaning towards the APU? The GT 740 will out perform it and the g3220 will perform better in those games. Especially minecraft.
 
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Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
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Screw that :D
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2400: $76

Why are you leaning towards the APU? The GT 740 will out perform it and the g3220 will perform better in those games. Especially minecraft.
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I question your entire premise. No offense :)
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A GT 740 is a GT 640 (GK107) with GDDR5. Anand used 1866MHz RAMs -- 2400MHz RAMs with an APU will further boost memory bandwidth by 20%, with a subsequent 10-15% increase in graphics performance.

In DX games, that's going to be all over that GT 740.

The A8-7600 and A10-6790K APUs are roughly equal in performance, but they each get there in distinctly different ways. The Richland is the choice if Minecraft performance is of high priority because of the OpenGL performance of the Turks GPU cores (and because you can OC it :)), or the Kaveri is the choice for HSA, higher IPC, etc. Either is infinitely better than a 'G' build, and can more than hold their own against the i3 Haswells.





 
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Actually, I entirely missed that you had put a build in your reply. My post was not directed towards your build at all, simply towards the two builds originally posted by the OP. I still think however he would be better off with the APU and then add a discrete card later if he feels the performance is not adequate. The dual core units simply suffer in gaming titles without the hyperthreading capabilities of at least the i3, or a major overclock like with the G3258.
 
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The AMD chips, especially the APUs, tend to have issues with DDR3 speeds over 1866 when more than 4GB is used. Depending on the chip, and this includes the FX chips, the memory controllers struggle in some configurations. I've seen it work, and not work, but the 1866mhz modules don't seem to have any issues up to 16GB. This has been confirmed by multiple sources including Tradesman1 who tests memory and is extremely experienced with advanced memory configurations.

I think it's better to avoid that possibility on a low end rig.
 
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Dude. Please learn when to stop digging your hole ...
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I've done multiple builds using those exact RAMs on Gigabyte FM2+ motherboards at spec speed, timings and voltage, on both Richland and Kaveri APUs.

And, I still recommend the A8-7600 because of those 6 GCN CUs, HSA, and 45/65w TDP with lower price, AND, if the OP could somehow come up with the cash he could add a $76 Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD with code EMCANAV23. At the price of the A8-7600, no better budget bang-fer-da-buck, there.
 
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I would still recommend the Intel. It makes the most sense.

No exactly sure what graphs you are using but I think you must have a pet unicorn too, right?

http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/0x0/3/3163/003163517.jpg
http://www.tech-review.de/uploads/reviews/KFA2_GT740_Heaven.jpg
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2014/08/3dmarkoc.png
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http://www.fpsthailand.com/fpsnews/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/fps-NVIDIA-GT730-REGIONAL-9.jpg



Maybe you can show me where I'm wrong because I must be missing something. r7 250=7850k iGPU.
 
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