CPU Overheats After Thermal Grease Application

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I built my computer a couple of years ago and everything was working perfectly. However a few days ago, out of the blue while playing starbound my computer shutdown without warning. Found out my cpu clocked in at about 90 degrees C. After doing some research I thought that my thermal grease had dried out. Bought some Arctic Silver 5, looked up on how to properly apply it and...my temperature doesn't seem to be any better. I have a new heat sink coming in a couple of days, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.

I have an AMD FX-4300 Quad.
Never had a problem before, but now it idles at 8 C - 18 C and whenever I play anything from Terraria to Skyrim it jumps to 60C and creeps up to the Thermal Junction.

Many thanks for the help.
 
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Well congrats on normal temps again, but I've not heard of a fan with the exception of a few Delta fans getting up to 6500 rpm. Some stock fans may run as high as 4000rpm but that's about it. There is definitely something screwy with reported info about all this, from temps to fan speeds. At 6500rpm that fan would not only sound like a jet engine in your case, but would burn up its bearings in no time, they are simply not built to handle those speeds.

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I did check if all the fans were running, and they were. Hopefully it's the heatsink.
 

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And the heatsink, fan, and everything else was decently cleaned when?

And I find something funky with your idle temps. Most air-conditioned rooms, are around 72°F or 22°C and with it being impossible on an air or liquid cooled pc to be below ambient temps, most pc's at idle run in the 30-40°C range. So for you to be concerned about the pc now running 8-18°C (46-64°F) would mean the area around the pc would be close to 0°C or 32°F for that to happen.

Oh, and a heatsink is nothing more than a machined chunk of metal. They don't die or break without some user intervention. If it's clean, the fault lies with the fan in some manner, either not spinning according to settings (worn bearings) or the settings in bios/software are not right for the fan/temps reached.
 

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That's just what HW Monitor and Core Temp tell me. As for if the fans are not running properly, I'm not very versed in how to check for any problems besides not receiving power. I cleaned out the components before I tried the thermal paste.
 

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The 4300 has a TDP of 95w, so thermal shutdowns can occur at anything close to that. But there is one thing to remember, software as far as temps goes, is all relative. Nothing is perfect. Hwmonitor and core temp, while widely accepted as good reliable software are still subject to things like user error (running both at the same time) and Hardware limitations. Different boards from different manufacturers, from different series to different chipset set will all report differently, the software looks for 1 sensor at 1 point and on 1 board that sensor is part of the package, on another board it could be part of the Northbridge, and since Intel has on-die Northbridge functions, that can play hell with temp readings.
Does your cpu idle at 8-18°C? No way, not unless you live in Siberia and it's winter time and the pc is by an open window. Even a good liquid cooler at max fan speeds (h100i for instance) will only be able to cool a cpu to within 3-6°C above ambient temp, so if your pc area is 22°C (72°F) you are at best looking at 25-28°C (77-82°F) and a stock cooler or something even better like a hyper212 EVO will be higher than that.

As far as fan speeds go, you'll have 2 clues. Pop the side on your pc, and look/listen to the cpu fan at idle. Now play your game or stress test, and watch/listen to the fan as the temps start to rise. Unless you are that unfortunate to have a set single speed fan, even a basic stock fan should speed up with the duty cycle set in bios, until it reaches max speed at 70% duty cycle, or roughly 70% of the temp the cpu is rated to handle. If it doesn't spin up, you'll need to check bios settings and make sure the fan details are set for 'performance' not 'silent' and barring that make manual adjustments to lower the max duty cycle, which will raise the speed of the fan at a lower temp set point.

Considering how far off idle temps are reported by both hwmonitor and core temp, you sound like you have either faulty temp sensors, or one of those boards that just doesn't play well with those software. Try real temp, speccy, hwinfo, as alternatives, one should read more normal temps hopefully.
 

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I decided to give everything a good clean, good news is that it's not overheating anymore. But when running anything the fans spike to 6500 RPM, not sure if this is anything bad but would like to run it by if this is a problem.
 

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Well congrats on normal temps again, but I've not heard of a fan with the exception of a few Delta fans getting up to 6500 rpm. Some stock fans may run as high as 4000rpm but that's about it. There is definitely something screwy with reported info about all this, from temps to fan speeds. At 6500rpm that fan would not only sound like a jet engine in your case, but would burn up its bearings in no time, they are simply not built to handle those speeds.
 
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