Handbrake Making my CPU temps massive

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imacoookieyt

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so i have an 8 core i7 with a coolermaster evo212 that i just installed and i smash out 100 degrees celcius everytime i try and compress a video and it will nomrally be between 90-100 celcius while compressing a 21 minute video and i dont know why this is happeneing
my case is an nzxt phantom 530
 
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Just as I suspected.

You need to go to Logitech's website and learn how to properly configure your keyboard. You'll know the temperature function is working properly when it agrees with Real Temp.

Nonetheless, Real Temp is accurate and dependable, and should always be used as your primary reference for Core temperatures.

Lastly, so you can get yourself up to speed on your processor temperatures, please read this Tom’s Sticky: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Thanks,

CT :sol:

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honestly? i cleaned 2 days ago and just got the pc on 28 of december 2014, first bootup was 8 of January 2015 custom made pc
and i only just installed the cooler master 212 evo 2 days ago as well (thats when i cleaned it )
 

pauls3743

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Remove heatsink.
Clean heatsink and processor and remove any plastic protective film.
Apply new thermal paste.
Reapply heatsink.

There's a few heatsinks which come with a protective film stuck to the underside of the heatsink to protect them from damage.
 

imacoookieyt

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idle is about 3 degrees Celsius and the heat sink is cleaned, no plastic film is on there i took it off and i have no more thermal paste to apply, when i got the 212 it came with thermal paste and my dad said that the whole thing was just for one use, it covered about the entire surface of the copper piping underside of the heatsink by about 2-5mm
 

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Buy some thermal paste

Its quite cheap.
After that,

Remove the previous thermal paste on the heatsink and cpu with 90% isopropyl alcohol using paper towels

Apply just a pea sized drop of thermal paste on the center of the cpu then re seat the heatsink

Post again with the temperature results on idle
 

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imacoookieyt,

If you're referring the i7 5960X, that's a 140 watt processor out of the box, and more when overclocked. Although the 212 EVO does a fair job on 84 and 88 watt quad core i5's and i7's, it's really not adequate for your 8 core / 16 thread processor.

There's another problem; Handbrake runs AVX code.

Core i 2nd, 3rd and 4th Generation CPU's have AVX (Advanced Vector Extension) instruction sets. When AVX code runs on the Floating Point Unit (FPU) math coprocessor, it causes extremely high temperatures. Prime95 versions later than 26.6 and the FPU test in AIDA64 have the same results.

Also, what is your ambient temperature?

Are you overclocked at all?

Thanks,

CT :sol:
 

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Ambient temperature means "room" temperature. More accurately, this is the temperature measured at your computer's air intake.

Standard Ambient temperature is 22C, which is normal room temperature, and is the reference value for Intel’s Thermal Specifications.

Knowing your Ambient temperature is important because Ambient directly affects all computer temperatures. Use a trusted analog, digital or IR thermometer to measure Ambient temperature.

Here's the temperature conversions and a short scale:

Cx9/5+32=F ... or ... F-32/9x5=C ... or more simply ... an increase of 1C = an increase of 1.8F

30.0C = 86.0F Hot
29.0C = 84.2F
28.0C = 82.4F
27.0C = 80.6F
26.0C = 78.8F Warm
25.0C = 77.0F
24.0C = 75.2F
23.0C = 73.4F
22.0C = 71.6F Standard ... or ... 22.2C = 72.0F
21.0C = 69.8F
20.0C = 68.0F Cool

With conventional air or liquid cooling, no temperatures can be less than or equal to Ambient.

As Ambient temperature increases, thermal headroom and overclocking potential decreases.

CT :sol:
 

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no im running 4790 k which just looked up and its 4 cores but 8 threads....... -_- im ready to give up if its not even and 8 core and nothing is working
 

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That would've been good to know right up front. I typically ask for full system specs and ambient temperature on my first post. For future reference, always include this information when you start a thread.

Don't get discouraged. We'll figure it out. Let's move on.

Are you sure that you removed the protective plastic from the bottom of the 212 EVO?
 

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yes i got rid of the plastic film
 

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Let's run a thermal benchmark so we can see where you're at.

Please download Prime95 version 26.6 - http://windows-downloads-center.blogspot.com/2011/04/prime95-266.html

If you already have a later version, do NOT run it. Use ONLY version 26.6.

Run only Small FFT’s for 10 minutes. Do NOT run Blend.

Use only Real Temp to measure your Core temperatures, as it was designed specifically for Intel processors: Real Temp - http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2089/real-temp-3-70/

Please report your Core temperatures and current ambient temperature.
 

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so im running it at the moment and it seems that im only hitting like less than 60 degrees celsius however as doing this i also notice that my g19s (what i was using before to measure temp) lcd screen says it is smashing 100 and its holding it. is it measuring in farrenheit or something?? also my ambient temp is 27

 

CompuTronix

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Your keyboard is not reading Core temperature; it's should be reading CPU temperature, which is not properly configured, and is rarely accurate in any event.

Regardless, you should use only Real Temp to monitor your Core temperatures, as it was designed specifically for Intel processors.

The method I gave you to test your Core temperatures is accurate, and proves that your Core temperatures are reporting the correct temperatures to you, and that your 212 EVO is cooling properly.

Next, while monitoring Real Temp, run Handbrake to verify your Core temperatures, then report your results.
 

imacoookieyt

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wow man so ur saying that its not even hitting 100 like it says?
wow the relief is so unbelievable
oh yeah and handbrake just scrapes at 68C
oh an dwhat is the difference between cpu temp and core temp? is it still bad that my g19 is saying 100 ever ?
 

CompuTronix

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Just as I suspected.

You need to go to Logitech's website and learn how to properly configure your keyboard. You'll know the temperature function is working properly when it agrees with Real Temp.

Nonetheless, Real Temp is accurate and dependable, and should always be used as your primary reference for Core temperatures.

Lastly, so you can get yourself up to speed on your processor temperatures, please read this Tom’s Sticky: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Thanks,

CT :sol:
 
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imacoookieyt

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wow thanks

 
if the above instructions don't resolve the issue:

i run handbrake as well as a number of other video editing programs, and have an intel i7-4790 (not the K) cpu, and had the same problem, running temps of 99-100C - and i only discovered it by accident, as my Asus monitoring utility was showing 67C max. When i ran other temp monitoring utilities they showed the 99-100C but i assumed they had to be off, as Asus had to have a better handle on temp monitoring on their own board - WRONG

There have been overheating issues with the 4690k, 4790(k) and a few other cpus - and there are a couple of good threads on intel's community website. There's a link to intel's XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility) that does a good job of monitoring temps, as well as the ones mentioned above

1st one: Troubleshooting Intel® Core™ i7-4790K / i5-4690K overheating https://communities.intel.com/docs/DOC-23517

2nd link: How best proceed with overheating i7-4790K?

The 2nd link is a 38+ page thread - ignore the first 15 or so pages, early releases of the 4790K apparently had qc issues, but appear to have cleared up by October 2014

biggest item that helped me, and i only tried the suggestions in desperation after re-applying heat sink thermal paste 2 times, was intel's suggestion to clear the CMOS and un-install the motherboard utilities - when i uninstalled Asus's performance monitoring utilities, temps improved some, but not that much - when i cleared CMOS, temps improved dramatically.

Handbrake is still the program that generates the highest temps, but max i see now is 80-82C and even then, those are only short duration spike temps

and if gives you any peace of mind, i ran my cpu at those temps (unknowingly) for 2-3 months, with some of the video files taking 3-4 hours to render. The cpu has throttling limits built in as "safeties", and one of them is "thermal" or heat limiting - when temps would hit 100C, the cpu would auto throttle the current to drop the temps, so that pretty much saved my cpu from frying.

Intel, in their charts indicates suggested max operating temp for the 4790k cpu to be 74C, +/- 4-5C, so that's what i shot for. I had other issues, mainly a small form factor case, that i've resolved by installing additional fans pushing more air in, and installing a better heatsink/cooler (noctua)

hope that helps
 
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