AMD FX 8370, bad FPS on Minecraft and CSGO.

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Ok guys, so here it is. This is a fresh 1 month old build, which also happens to be my first build. I got the following:

AMD FX 8370
GTX 760 OC
ASROCK 970 Extreme4 motherboard
Arctic cooling freezer 13 cooler
XFX TS 550W Bronze PSU
8GB 1600Mhz Ram

So, I installed 3 games, Minecraft, CSGO and Borderlands 2. Here are are my troubles, I play minecraft on 1.7.10 with Optifine. I get good frames, about 500, but I dip into the 30's a lot, and it really bothers me, same with csgo. I also tried borderlands 2, but surprisingly I get NO frame drops what so ever on ultra. I had people tell me that all these games are cpu intensive, but if so, why does borderlands run so good, but csgo and minecraft dont? I also went into minecraft 1.8 and turned VBOS on. What that does, it basicly makes your GPU do all the work and 1.8 runs really good because if the 760. But I play 1.7 not 1.8. What is wrong?
 
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I forgot to mention, I just remembered, I read somewhere, that my CPU could be thermal throttling because the motherboard has bad VRMs or something.

 
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Well, the first thing to be would be to download HWmonitor and see what your CPU temperature is running at. Look at the "core temp"

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

It is odd you're having trouble with lower detail games, I don't have first hand experience with Counterstrike, but I run MC with a 512x512 photo realism texture pack with no issue. It could even be the graphics card with MC, MC with some of the really sexy texture packs and options can easily tax the RAM and GPU more than Battlefield 4 (owed to the fact that its Java based which is notoriously hoggish). You have 8GB of RAM, have you considered not using VBOS?
 
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How do I fix thermal throttling?

 
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You'll first have to determine if that is the issue. Download coretemp and leave it open while playing, when you get an fps drop look at (max.) temperatures. If they're above 60C, you will need to take your cpu cooler off, clean the thermal paste, apply new thermal paste and then reseat the cpu cooler. You can go to a local computer store if you don't have thermal paste. Decent one costs like $2 for a tube. (Make sure to only apply very little, though)
 
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Your mobo has 4+1 vrm, for an 8 core fx you really should be looking at 8+1 mobos, you could could try downclocking/undervolting which can actually be as fun as overclocking.

 
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Any danger in doing that? Also, can you point me to a video guide for this?

 
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Yea, but CounterStrike shouldn't come anywhere near driving an FX-8350 to its limit.
 
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what should I do then?

 
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There is no 'set guide' or perfect setting for all chips its a tuning process all chips behave different, start with your motherboard user manual and learn bios settings. Basically, test for stability, reduce voltage, test, and so on. Another thing you could try is switching off cores if your motherboard bios allows, switch off one from each module then try your games again. I would recommend you change the board however, something like a gigabyte ud3 with 8+1 vrm.

 
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If I change boards, I have to change the harddrive and windows too, because I don't want all of the mess that comes with a motherboard replacement.

 
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No, just uninstall the drivers, replace the board and thermal paste and install the drivers that come with the new board, it can be a bit messy at first but my current 7 install has went amd-amd-intel without reinstalling. Back up important files but I would be doing that anyway.
 
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What specific stuff should go off the pc and what can stay on?

 
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Just drivers related to the board, lan, usb3, soundcard, any asrock tools/apps etc. As a general rule anything asrock or realtek will be related to the board, I updated gpu drivers but there was newer versions at the time anyway.
Dont worry about it, the trouble you may read with doing this mostly only relates to prebuilt oem pcs which lock windows to the board, you could even back up everything and reinstall windows using the same key.
 
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