AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE too slow for modern games?

punkdthrice

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My rig is currently about 3 years old and i was wondering if the Phenom II x4 965 BE is still good enough running the latest games? Such as Far Cry 4, Crysis 3, Battlefield 4? This is also paired with a single GTX 660 2GB. I am currently getting an avg 30 fps on Far Cry 4 and was wondering how much benefit I would get from a CPU upgrade to say something like the FX 8350?

My CPU is not overclocked. It is running @ stock 3.4Ghz
 
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The Phenom II X4 is still a decent chip and stock FX chips are not hugely surpassing it but they do give you a bit more FPS. A FX 6300, 6350, 8320 or 8350 overclocked to 4.5gz and above will give you a notable improvement at the cost of added heat and power consumption. I'm still running a Phenom II X4 965 in one of my systems that will get replaced next year but it is perfectly playable in every title that my Son plays with the exception of GW2 WVW where it flounders to 15 FPS. Upgrading your GPU will give you the largest gain move to at least a R9 270X and above.
easy to check, increase/decrease game details. if the fps stays around the same -> the cpu is holding down the card. if the fps changes dramatically it means the graphics card is at its limit on 30 and even if you get a newer cpu it won't make any difference.

the phenom is not a bad cpu. old by now, but pretty good.
 

Sig2525

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you upgrade from an fx 8350? it wont change much. but if you upgrade that gtx 660 to atleast a gtx 760 or gtx 770 then you would see a significant boost even if your cpu will bottleneck it.

phenom II x4 965 be + gtx 770 is way better than an fx 8350 + gtx 660
 

delaro

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The Phenom II X4 is still a decent chip and stock FX chips are not hugely surpassing it but they do give you a bit more FPS. A FX 6300, 6350, 8320 or 8350 overclocked to 4.5gz and above will give you a notable improvement at the cost of added heat and power consumption. I'm still running a Phenom II X4 965 in one of my systems that will get replaced next year but it is perfectly playable in every title that my Son plays with the exception of GW2 WVW where it flounders to 15 FPS. Upgrading your GPU will give you the largest gain move to at least a R9 270X and above.
 
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What the others said, why not overclock it? You shouldn't have much trouble getting it to 3.7 - 4.0GHZ range. I probably wouldn't with the stock cooler, but 3.7 is what the Phenom II 980s were stock, and they're essentially the same CPU just different multiplier settings and they shipped with the same exact cooler (but the stock coolers are kinda just barely adequate for the 980s)
 
Adding in as well, running 965 4.22GHz with a 760, runs most modern games fine.
SC2 maxed 60FPS, D3 maxed 100FPS, BF3 maxed 50FPS, and so on.

The phenom II series was a great lineup, the 965 is no different.
They may be aging, but they are aging well.