intel i7 4790k running hot

Jeremy Bordenuik

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ok so the title says it all. my buddy built a new computer

parts as listed

intel i7 4790k 4.0GHZ

corsair h105 water cooler

asus maximus vii hero

g skill trident 2400mhz 4 x 4

nzxt 630 ultra case

EVGA GTX 970

intel 530 120GB SSD

seagate barracuda 1TB

corsair cs 750 80+gold cert.



hes idleing at 28-34C ( sometimes spikes to 50+C )

under load he gets around the 50-65C



and my 8 core fx 8350 overclocked 4.2 gets 17-22C idle and doesnt go over 50 under load.

COOLED with the CORSAIR h60 water cooler

me being an AMD guy sees high temps like his. and gets worried...


ON A SIDE NOTE.


his CPU SPEED spikes anywhere from 0.92- 4.32 GHZ with the pc just sitting there.... and his UPU useage spikes anywhere from 1-60% just from opening battle.net launcher.





 
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what case are you using is it big enough got good air flow.change the fans on the h110 the fans they come with are not that good got pair of top line corsairs,that for starters should bring temps down a bit,and also ive noticed new models from corsair have larger diameter tubing for better flow through.you maybe lot better doing a closed loop custom cooling job.or have you thought trying an air cooler just to see differance,first i would replace the fans and maybe think about case.i dont think you have probem with thermal paste which paste are you using as some are much better than others artic mx4 is very good for me .i use to use artic silver but now getting lower temps with mx4. hope this of some help

CompuTronix

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Jeremy Bordenuik,

Spikes are normal. Core temperatures respond instantly to changes in load.

Also, you can't compare apples to oranges, AMD to Intel, or 32 nanometer architecture to 22 nanometer architecture.

Let's give you some perspective on this topic.

The term "load" gets tossed around like gorilla poo in a cage. Load? Which load? What load? Load is a very subjective term.

Applications, rendering, encoding and gaming are partial workloads with fluctuating temperatures, and aren't suitable for thermal testing or comparing temperatures, but they're great for endless debate.

There are only three relevant values; Ambient, steady-state 100% workload, and dead idle. Prime95 Small FFT's is the standard for CPU thermal testing, because it's a steady-state 100% workload.

Intel desktop processors have thermal sensors for each Core, plus a sensor for the entire processor, so a Quad Core has five sensors. Heat originates within the Cores where Digital sensors measure Core temperatures. A single Analog sensor under the Cores measures overall CPU temperature.

Core temperature is 5C higher than CPU temperature due to sensor location. Intel's Thermal Specification is "Tcase", which is CPU temperature, not Core Temperature. Tcase for your i7 4790K is 74C: http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

Tcase + 5 makes the corresponding Core temperature 79C. <-- This is your spec.

The relationship between Core temperature and CPU temperature is not in the Thermal Specifications; it's only found in a few engineering documents.

The relationships between Ambient temperature, CPU temperatures, Core temperatures and Throttle temperatures are shown below for the i7 4790K. All values are based on Intel documentation.

4th Generation 22 Nanometer: 4790K (TDP 88W / Idle 2W)

Standard Ambient = 22C
Tcase (CPU temp) = 74C
CPU / Core offset + 5C
Tjunction (Core temp) = 79C
Tj Max (Throttle temp) = 100C

Standard Ambient temperature is 22C, which is normal room temperature, and is the reference value for Intel’s Thermal Specifications. Knowing your Ambient temperature is important because Ambient directly affects all computer temperatures.

With conventional air or liquid cooling, no temperatures can be less than or equal to Ambient.

As Ambient temperature increases, thermal headroom and overclocking potential decreases.

At 22C Standard Ambient, here's the typical operating range for Core temperature:

80C Hot (100% Load)
75C Warm
70C Warm (Heavy Load)
60C Norm
50C Norm (Medium Load)
40C Norm
30C Cool (Idle)

Q What is your Ambient temperature?

Please download Prime95 version 26.6 - http://windows-downloads-center.blogspot.com/2011/04/prime95-266.html

Run only Small FFT’s for 10 minutes.

Q What are you using to measure temperatures?

Use only Real Temp to measure your Core temperatures, as it was designed specifically for Intel processors: Real Temp - http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2089/real-temp-3-70/

Let us know what Real Temp reports 10 minutes into the Small FFT's test.

Please read this Tom’s Sticky: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Thanks,

CT :sol:
 

CompuTronix

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Casper Traberg-Larsen,

Before you can validate temperatures, you first need to know ambient temperature and load software. You also need to know which monitoring software is being used to measure CPU temperature or Core temperature. There's a difference.

You might want to give this a read to get yourself up to speed: Intel Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Thanks,

CT :sol:
 

Casper Traberg-Larsen

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I know, i know.. :)
But for an quick answer to OP, a load temperature (i presume 100%) at 50-65C is good - no matter the ambient. That is all he needs to know :) i always presumed, that he was reading the correct core temperature.

 

Simon Horne

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what case are you using is it big enough got good air flow.change the fans on the h110 the fans they come with are not that good got pair of top line corsairs,that for starters should bring temps down a bit,and also ive noticed new models from corsair have larger diameter tubing for better flow through.you maybe lot better doing a closed loop custom cooling job.or have you thought trying an air cooler just to see differance,first i would replace the fans and maybe think about case.i dont think you have probem with thermal paste which paste are you using as some are much better than others artic mx4 is very good for me .i use to use artic silver but now getting lower temps with mx4. hope this of some help
 
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Ahmed_Halawa

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my cpu i7 4790k and i using intel cpu cooler when i rendering in after effect Temperature reaches
96 Celsius
for a minute and finished render
It's the second time using after Effect, and I think I will not use it until I get cooler