first pc build for elder scrolls

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Im wanting a decent gaming rig for around 600-700 dollars. Also Im wanting to play it on ultra settings and I plan on having a few mods like for better graphics and gameplay mods like extra quests characters and flying. I have parts picked out but Im having a hard time finding out if the parts are compatible. Im only shopping on amazon because I don't have a credit card. Id like to have this built in a few weeks. so please help me with my first rig. thanks!! Here is the list of components I have picked out. Note: I know nothing about these; Im new to pc building.

case- Sentey® Gs-6050 Halcon II Gaming Computer Case

mother board - ASRock MB-970EX4 Socket AM3+

ram - 8GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz

psu - Raidmax Power Supply ATX 500 Power Supply RX-500AF

harddrive - Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive

optical drive - Lite-On 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive Optical Drive IHAS124-14

cpu - AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 6-Core Processor Black Edition

graphics card - XFX Double D R9 270 925MHz Boost 2GB DDR5 DP HDMI 2XDVI Graphics Card (R9270ACDFC)





 
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Do you need an operating system? Monitor? Peripherals? If not, this one would perform much better (much better CPU, much better power supply, much faster graphics card):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.64 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($225.52 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake...
Do you need an operating system? Monitor? Peripherals? If not, this one would perform much better (much better CPU, much better power supply, much faster graphics card):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.64 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($225.52 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.33 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $714.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-18 03:44 EST-0500
 
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sweet. I was wanting to keep that case I had picked out. would it still work? I don't know what it is but I want some blue LED lights on my rig. I have windows 7 already in my cart in amazon. Its a lil more than I wanted to spend but as long as it will last and get me away from them danged consoles and be better than the consoles.
 

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thank you for your help. Do you have any advice for a first time builder? I was also curious how to deal with static charges? I read that they can ruin the components and I don't want to spend all this money then get it together and not have it work. lol
 
Don't worry, just make sure you touch a large metal surface before touching the components. You can also try handling them in a way to avoid direct contact with metal parts, just plastic corners or bits. This is mostly precautionary, since in 99% of the cases nothing will happen even if you do touch them (unless you are one of those people who constantly shock other people with sparks when shaking hands or wear wool clothes ;)

There are numerous videos on youtube to help you out, as are many guides here on tom's hardware. It is not difficult at all, and you will also learn something in the process ;)
 

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ok thank you. Im going to school for electrical engineering. I know this isn't the same thing but its close. So ive been wanting to dabble in messing with electronics and get to know the components so when Im actually taking classes for my major ill have a little bit of knowledge. Will I need to buy special tools to build the Gaming rig?

Im excited to get away from consoles. I learned about modding a year ago and seen some of the mods for skyrim and couldn't believe the difference in graphics from the console to the pc. I figured theyd be the same. lol.. sorry im babbling. thanks again for your information! :D
 


I do like this build, whenever you can fit an intel build inside your budget. Like he said it a better CPU, PSU, and GPU then your build. Just to try and keep you inside your budget I would swap out the corsair ram to these mushkin sticks http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997002 and maybe a cheaper optical drive. Try and see if you have an old one laying around or barrow one from a friend for a few days to get your OS installed. I just keep a cheap external one laying around, haven't had an internal driver for 6+ years in a build.


For Building a system try to have everything you need right there by you. I always do my builds on the kitchen table, large amount of space to work with. You don't want to put a part in and then have to get up and walk around for something, that's how you can build up static charge in you. I keep everything in their boxes right next to me on the floor and take it out when needed. A weird but good habit to do is always touch something, bend over to pick up a box touch the ground with your other hand. When you sit back up with your free hand touch the case, if you do something always take your free hand and touch something else. I know it sounds weird but your always grounding your self to something then and its a good habit to have. Next when taking parts out of the boxes, if the part is in a bag DO NOT lay the part down on top of the bag. I always see people post pictures of stuff they bought and have the part laying on top of the bag. Its called a static bag it keeps static on the outside of the bag so it doesn't get into the part. Same goes for any plastic clam shell. If you need to lay a part down put it on the cardboard box it came in.

Tools needed for install
Zip ties lots and lots of zip ties
pair of side cuts to cut the tails off the zip ties
Philips screw driver
good lighting
lots of time, I've taken as long as 3 hours to do a build before just for good cable management.

This is the build in my sig, took me a full day for this build, about 3 hours for install and cable management and the rest of the day making the fiberglass box around the PSU. About 95% of the cables are behind the Motherboard tray, the box only covers where the cables bend 90* and head off behind the tray.


If you need help with anything feel free to ask questions, always welcome to help anyone starting out. We were all there at one point and time. :)
 


I buy them in bulk :lol: small and medium size ones then in short and long and keep about 1000 of each in stock. I do a lot of run 2 cables and then go to do the third and find out that the first one in now in the way so I have to cut it back out. maybe tonight I'll take a picture of the ugly side of my case :ouch:
 

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Just a personal preference based on what I know about graphics cards, but if you're going to get an Intel CPU, don't restrict yourself to an AMD graphics card. From what I understand, AMD works best with AMD, but Nvidia works better if it's not an AMD CPU. Just my personal preference though. :p And yes, zip ties are important if you like things to be neat. Otherwise a great build!
 
I haven't done any testing but I would have to say the amd GPUs would work better with their cpus just because they are built with the same architecture in mind. I don't think there is a difference between NVidia amd when it comes to intel cpu's.

I just use Nvidia because I hate amd's drivers for their GPU's and ive never owned an AMD cpu, even back in the Prescott years. So the kinda makes me a Nvidia/intel guy
 

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I'm in the same boat, to be honest. I'd go with Nvidia over AMD any day. And Nvidia is generally better at keeping cool (the cooling designs are generally better) than AMD, and CUDA is a specialized program for Stream Processing that is exclusive to Nvidia, so that's why Nvidia generally has better overall performance than AMD. But they're generally about the same if a CPU is Intel.
 

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Thanks everyone. I bought the build that was suggested. It came to $850 with the os and the case i wanted. but I figure if someone built it or I bought it from a store it would cost alot more. So I'm grateful. Ill spend less and hopefully be able to have realistic graphics on the games I play. Screw consoles. They've gotten way to greedy. PC gaming here I come lol. And I know if I need help ill have some good folks willing to give me some advice. Thanks again. :D
 

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PC gaming is scores above console gaming but you'll need more time to get the most out of it. Modding Skyrim has been a particular craze of mine over the last 4 years. The Game I play now is SO much better than the one that came out in 2011 and not just graphically.

For your reference I'd suggest checking out the S.T.E.P.S community for Skyrim and the GEMS mods that are on the Skyrim Nexus and ALWAY remember to check you load order! :)

Oh yeah also try not to remove mods mid play through as this can cause errors that lead to crashes later down the line. ENB and graphical mods are not an issue for this but mods that add scripts like patrolling bandits or other factions will cause this issue.

 

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Thanks you again for your help. I ended up building this rig. Been using it for a month now. I had a few questions if you'd be so kind to answer. One, in the middle of the game sometimes it goes back to.the desktop screen with a message that says "display driverhas stopped responding but has been recovered." Is there anything I can do so this doesn't happen anymore? It doesn't do it all the time. Two, will this rig support the game "Dying light"? I've looked and I'm still not that computer savvy. Thank you!
 
The rig supports dying light, of course.

As for the graphics card issue, this can be hard to debug. It can either be a poorly written game, a glitchy driver or just a bad card, but sometimes also overheating. I would test at least a dozen of different games to see whether it happens with only one, several of them or all of them. Also, check your CPU and GPU temps while playing.
 

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ok thank you very much! :D Well, I have an update on my issue and I recently was playing another game and I had the same problem with the driver not responding and being recovered. At one time my screen went black and never came back on. So I restarted the computer and still nothing. So I opened up the computer and kinda pressed on the video card a few times and then rebooted it. This time it showed the picture and I was able to boot it back up. Now I am to scared to even play it because I spent all of this money on it and Im having issues. I have always had problems with electronics. Ive went through 4 xbox 360s, and a ps3. Not to mention the countless n64s, playstations, and ps2s I went through. I was hoping PC gaming would be different. I have yet to see the CPU temp. go above 35 degrees Celsius. The PC seems to blow cold air out. I have 5 fans, plus the CPU fan. I don't really want to even buy dying light now because of this. I seem cursed when it comes to gaming. Any advice? Is there away to check the video card to see if it is bad? or any of the other components? Thanks a lot for your help.

 

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That is a lot of electrical equipment that's fried on you. Maybe you have a static issue in your house. Could be that your carpet is creating a static charge that is frying your electrical stuff or perhaps its an unstable power supply coming from your mains power (do your lights flicker from time to time?)!! You could try buying a power stabiliser.