- Feb 18, 2015
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Hey folks,
I'm referring to this article (which is great stuff, btw ;-):
Commenting a 2 years old article didn't seem quite suitable to me, therefore this thread.
I was wondering if Andrew Ku / acku managed to get Asus' UAS driver working with this Syba SD-PEX20112 card and a officially not supported Asus P8P67 it might work as well on even older Asus Boards with the right ASM1042/ASM1042A Chip PCIe Card. Maybe on any Board regardless of manufacturer (and PCIe 1.1 speed limit) as long there is a free PCIe Slot.
Scenario:
- Asus P5K3 Deluxe Board with PCIe 1.1 (I'm aware of the theoretical max. 200 MB/s, but wanted to test it anyway)
- Highpoint RocketU 1022C PCIe 2.0 / 2x USB 3.0 Card with ASM1042A
(http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_RocketU1022C-Series.htm)
- Sandisk Extreme USB 3.0 64GB Flash Drive (SDCZ80-064G-G46, newest model from August 2013 afaik)
- tested on WinXP Pro x86 SP3 and Win7 Pro x64 SP1
- AMIDEDOS.EXE for modifying make and model SMBIOS strings
My idea:
Get USB 3.0 work with UAS on WinXP to see if an extension card solution on a PCIe 1.1 port is worth the money and effort. Why WinXP? It's still a great OS and I wanted to know where the real limits are. USB 3.0 on XP is possible if appropriate drivers are provided, but UAS is another thing.
My conclusions:
1.) Sandisk (Cruzer) Extreme USB 3.0 64GB Flash Drive (SDCZ80-064G-G46 & SDCZ80-064G-FFP models) does not support UAS. Applied both BOT and UAS driver on it and copy tests revealed exactly the same performance. I thought it does support UAS because it's listed along with other drives which do support UAS in this chart:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/usb-3.0-thumb-drives-2013/benchmarks,144.html
2.) Installing the Asus Boost Driver manually by replacing the mass storage driver of the sandisk device doesn't work on XP; however, it does on Win7 (of course, like acku stated in his article). But, Asus provides Boost drivers for XP on Z77 Boards (with ASM1042 chips) for example. Furthermore, another official source where XP UAS support is stated:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?11986-What-is-ASUS-USB-3-Boost-and-UASP&p=86267&viewfull=1#post86267
3.) Tools like WinToolKit and WinSetupFromUSB (newest versions tested) don't recognize the Sandisk Extreme when Boost driver is installed. When standard mass storage driver is installed, they do.
4.) I've come to my limits tricking this clever Asus subroutine which checks make and model. It still says it is the wrong model although I modified setup manufacturer & product name type 1 & 2 as follows:
amidedos /sm "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
amidedos /sp "P8Z77-V Deluxe"
amidedos /bm "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
amidedos /bp "P8Z77-V Deluxe"
(tested "P8Z77-V" as well, same result)
My questions:
to 1.) Can anyone confirm or disprove that the Sandisk (Cruzer) Extreme does not support UAS?
to 2.) Does anyone have WinXP running with Boost Driver and UAS on a Asus P8Z77 Board?
to 3.) Someone encountered these problems, too? Any solution?
to 4.) Does the subroutine check the board's serial number and UUID, too? If so, could someone be so kind to provide me with one from any Z77 Asus board? I know from the article that acku managed to trick this subroutine and I would like to know how he did that and what I am doing wrong or missing.
I'm referring to this article (which is great stuff, btw ;-):
Commenting a 2 years old article didn't seem quite suitable to me, therefore this thread.
I was wondering if Andrew Ku / acku managed to get Asus' UAS driver working with this Syba SD-PEX20112 card and a officially not supported Asus P8P67 it might work as well on even older Asus Boards with the right ASM1042/ASM1042A Chip PCIe Card. Maybe on any Board regardless of manufacturer (and PCIe 1.1 speed limit) as long there is a free PCIe Slot.
Scenario:
- Asus P5K3 Deluxe Board with PCIe 1.1 (I'm aware of the theoretical max. 200 MB/s, but wanted to test it anyway)
- Highpoint RocketU 1022C PCIe 2.0 / 2x USB 3.0 Card with ASM1042A
(http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_RocketU1022C-Series.htm)
- Sandisk Extreme USB 3.0 64GB Flash Drive (SDCZ80-064G-G46, newest model from August 2013 afaik)
- tested on WinXP Pro x86 SP3 and Win7 Pro x64 SP1
- AMIDEDOS.EXE for modifying make and model SMBIOS strings
My idea:
Get USB 3.0 work with UAS on WinXP to see if an extension card solution on a PCIe 1.1 port is worth the money and effort. Why WinXP? It's still a great OS and I wanted to know where the real limits are. USB 3.0 on XP is possible if appropriate drivers are provided, but UAS is another thing.
My conclusions:
1.) Sandisk (Cruzer) Extreme USB 3.0 64GB Flash Drive (SDCZ80-064G-G46 & SDCZ80-064G-FFP models) does not support UAS. Applied both BOT and UAS driver on it and copy tests revealed exactly the same performance. I thought it does support UAS because it's listed along with other drives which do support UAS in this chart:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/usb-3.0-thumb-drives-2013/benchmarks,144.html
2.) Installing the Asus Boost Driver manually by replacing the mass storage driver of the sandisk device doesn't work on XP; however, it does on Win7 (of course, like acku stated in his article). But, Asus provides Boost drivers for XP on Z77 Boards (with ASM1042 chips) for example. Furthermore, another official source where XP UAS support is stated:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?11986-What-is-ASUS-USB-3-Boost-and-UASP&p=86267&viewfull=1#post86267
3.) Tools like WinToolKit and WinSetupFromUSB (newest versions tested) don't recognize the Sandisk Extreme when Boost driver is installed. When standard mass storage driver is installed, they do.
4.) I've come to my limits tricking this clever Asus subroutine which checks make and model. It still says it is the wrong model although I modified setup manufacturer & product name type 1 & 2 as follows:
amidedos /sm "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
amidedos /sp "P8Z77-V Deluxe"
amidedos /bm "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
amidedos /bp "P8Z77-V Deluxe"
(tested "P8Z77-V" as well, same result)
My questions:
to 1.) Can anyone confirm or disprove that the Sandisk (Cruzer) Extreme does not support UAS?
to 2.) Does anyone have WinXP running with Boost Driver and UAS on a Asus P8Z77 Board?
to 3.) Someone encountered these problems, too? Any solution?
to 4.) Does the subroutine check the board's serial number and UUID, too? If so, could someone be so kind to provide me with one from any Z77 Asus board? I know from the article that acku managed to trick this subroutine and I would like to know how he did that and what I am doing wrong or missing.
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