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Ram Kamal

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i3 @ 3210
DH61BF LGA 1155
8gb RAM (2x4GB)
MSI R9 270X
CORSAIR VS 650
Any Suitable Cabinet Can Be Bought

Basically, I have 20k rs.
I want to upgrade my processor and motherboard for the money. Cabinet seperate.
I want to do some medium level gaming and watch HD movies.
Any socket type and form factor is ok.
I need 2 PCI slots.(May crossfire r9 270x) Gen 2 or 3 is fine.
I will need 4 ram slots.
I guess I will need a processor for 13k and mobo for 7k.
No preference between AMD and Intel processor.(Needs to be good enough to support r9 270x CF)

And to all people who say I should have bought a better graphics card, I feel the same way, cant be helped now. :\

Thanks in advance.

 
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I know that, but you just said:



But nevermind :)
Zebronics are poor quality, like LucoTF said. And IMO, they're ugly :) but that's a personal matter of course.

What are those "normal processes" that your PC is too slow at?

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Four questions. Please mention a few models of the series you just mentioned.
When will it release?
How much will it cost?
How good is it? (Equals to current processors)
Will it release in India?
I can wait around 5 months.
 
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1. In the second half of 2015
2. No clue - I don't know if there's an estimate for prices right now.
3. It's awesome. Many new features - just look it up. For gaming though, biggest selling point and a differene maker will PCI-E 4.0 Support.
4. No idea, but I guess it should.

As for your current setup, if you'd choose to upgrade, I'd go with sth like this:
Motherboard: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z97-GAMING-5.html#hero-overview
CPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/80811/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz or http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz
GPU: http://www.msi.com/product/vga/GTX-970-GAMING-4G.html#hero-overview (two R9 270's in crossfire propably won't do as good as this one and it will consume less power, so if you can sell that 270 or keep it untill you can afford a better GPU, spending money on another 270 is a waste).
Your PSU is ok. Case is completely up to you since you should like how it looks (get sth spacy and with good airflow).
I must add, I have no idea about Indian currency, except that it's a rupee, so I have no clue on how much you're willing to spend :)
 
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Firstly, I am obviously in India. So selling a graphic card is out of the question and so is spending money on a gpu right now.
And to be frank, the price of the 4690k and z97 is around 400 usd(25,000 inr) but the original price in india is 30,000 inr.
My budget is 20,000 inr. So you can get a fair idea of what to suggest. Also try www.flipkart.com and www.snapdeal.com.
They are indian and show relatively less price compared to local stores.
 
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Why upgrade your motherboard? Just get an i5-3570 and be happy
 
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I have a few doubts.
Is there any advantage for LGA 1150 against LGA 1155 because its newer? Will the support or production of new pieces of LGA 1155 processor and mobo end soon?
Also, I don't do high end gaming r9 270x may suffice for atleast 3 years at my level.
What are the advantages for a costlier motherboard against a cheaper one?
Is the DH61BF good? I just feel that a costlier motherboard can affect performance. How true is this?
My motherboard can handle all the components I want right now.
 
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The 1150 has better standard features (sata 3 ports, USB 3.0) and is Broadwell upgradeable so it's kind of future-proof. Also chips run cooler and more efficent.
Now you're saying you don't do high-end gaming and you're good with your GPU for 3 years, so why did you say you want to crossfire your 270 earlier?
A more expensive board will give you more power efficiency, overclocking ability, more standard features (such as more PCI-E ports and so on), will have better cooling, and may affect performance as well.
Also, if you're not doing high-end gaming, you should be fine with your current setup. The i5-3570 that LucoTF suggested won't give you that much of a performance gain, so IMHO that's a waste of money.
Oh, and why is selling a video card in India out of the question?
 
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Within 18 months there will be no more new processors on LGA1150. Production of new LGA1155 processors stopped when LGA1150 came out.

Your current motherboard may be cheap but it does all that you need it to. It supports a graphics card, 16gb ram and it will accept an i7 processor. I mean, why spend 20k gettting a new socket motherboard and an i5 when you can keep your DH61BF and get one of THESE for the same money?

http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-4-ghz-lga-1155-core-i7-3770-processor/p/itmd99wthaemfktx
 
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I get your point. I guess 2700k is better than 3770.
I'll probably go with it if skylake series isn't too pleasing.
And one more doubt. For a cabinet, is zebronics good? I mean it gives all the features other cabinets like cooler master have and its cheaper. I'll probably save rs 1000 there.
 
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I understand you feel my rig is pretty good. But it still sucks while playing assasin's creed unity.
I get that basically its 75% gpu and 25% processor.
I also feel that the i3 @ 3210 is bottlenecking the r9 270x slightly.
So upgrading my processor will maybe helping in getting a few fps up.
 
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Assasin's Creed Unity is kind of high-end gaming :)
Before you upgrade your CPU, you should actually check if it's bottlenecking your GPU - you're not supposed to feel that. Install something like Open Hardware Monitor and check what CPU/GPU loads you get when gaming.
 
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Yes the i3 is probably struggling with AC:U, but for a 20k budget there's no point in upgrading from Ivy Bridge 1155 to Haswell 1150 - there isn't a good enough CPU & mobo combo within that price range to make it worth it.

As I said, your most sensible upgrade right now is the i5-3570.
 
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Its pretty obvious that AC Unity is high end. Thats why I play with medium settings. That too in my 32 led tv. Other than that, my PC needs to become faster in other normal processes. Thats why I opted for it.

That put aside, my cabinet gets awfully heated. Its just too small. I had to relocate the ssd cage t make it fit in. So are zebronics cabinets good. I took a look at few models like BEAST, DUKE etc. Its form factor either reads "MicroATX etc." or is not specified. Can you get the form factor for me?
 
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Better than flipkart , snapdeal and amazon.in, u can try primeabgb.com. They have a wide variety of products as compared to aforementioned sources and also cheaper in most cases.
I recently purchased a lots of goods & my experience was nice.
 
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I know that, but you just said:



But nevermind :)
Zebronics are poor quality, like LucoTF said. And IMO, they're ugly :) but that's a personal matter of course.

What are those "normal processes" that your PC is too slow at?

 
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What I actually mean is, I don't intend to play high end games with high settings, ultra HD monitor and stuff like that. Its ok as long as I am able to play the game, atleast in medium or minimal settings without lag.
And next, I said there was a lot of scope for improvement, not very bad or stuff. Nver mind about that.
Thanks anyways, I'm clear with what to do now.

 
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