Core i5 4690 vs 4690k (not OC)

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

Before you jump saying the only difference is that 'k' can be overclocked (as I read in every reply to this question in the past), it is not. I'm not really into OC'ing, so I won't choose the 'k' just because it can be OC'd.

So, I'm finally building a new Desktop PC (old MB died, and it was time to get better HW anyway).

I'm having trouble choosing the processor:
Intel Core i5 4690
or
Intel Core i5 4690k

You can see the actual differences of these 2 processors here:
http://ark.intel.com/compare/80810,80811

As you can see, 4690k has TSX-NI (which 4690 doesn't) and 4690 has vPro, SIPP and Trusted Execution Technology (which 4690k doesn't).
Unfortunately I'm not sure how widespread these techonologies are, so I'm not sure if I really need them now, or will in the future.
I've read about them a little bit, but can't really say I understand which apps/games may be using them (again, now or in the future).

I'll be using the PC mostly for (but not limited to):
-Gaming
-VMs
-Browsing
-Development
-CAD
-Sound editing/processing

Can anyone shed some light on these technologies, and possible applications that may use them?

Additional info (not relevant to my question, but thought I'd share it anyway):
-MB: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK
-RAM: G.Skill F3-2400C10D-16GTX (1 kit for now; will add a 2nd kit later on)
-GPU: Zotac GTX 750Ti
-PSU: Seasonic M12ii-620 EVO

Justkeeplookin · Feb 27, 2015

4690K has higher base clock and i believe clock multiplier is unlocked unlike 4690 which has a lower base clock and clock multiplier is locked

Justkeeplookin · Feb 27, 2015

Never mind about clock speed

Justkeeplookin · Feb 27, 2015

summary
Core i5 4690K vs
4690
Clock speed 3.5 GHz 3.5 GHz
Turbo clock speed 3.9 GHz 3.9 GHz
Cores Quad core Quad core
Is unlocked Yes No
Is hyperthreaded No No
features
Has a NX bit Yes Yes
Supports trusted computing No Yes
Has virtualization support Yes Yes

This is from CPU boss

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690

If you look on the benchmarks the 4690k can scrape a few more points

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

Okay, well there is not much a benefit to the 4690 in regards to those extra capabilities that the 4690K does not unless you plan on using this as a work computer in an enterprise setup or you do a lot of office work in the same environment I just mentioned. And the TSX-NI is utilized to help with the potential overclocking from what I can gather. Most of the programs you get with the 4690 are mainly for security from viruses and firewall support and have nothing really do with performance in the at home setting. Like I said before it's mainly for PC on and enterprise network. If you do not plan to overclock then either or are good options, but why pay for the 4690K you don't plan to utilized the extra capability it has for speed.

st3v30 · Feb 27, 2015

Without OC there wont be any viable difference,but 4690k is a bit future proof since it can OC to bring out better performance for more demanding CPU applications.

TheFluffyDog · Feb 27, 2015

I have a helpful tip, i noticed you wanted to do CAD. Since your planning on getting a dedicated GPU, and you dont plan to OC, how about getting something like an Intel Xeon E3-1231V3. its badically a 4core i7, but you cant OC it. It will provide around double the performance in CAD than the i5, and its almost 100$ cheaper than an i7.

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

Not to mention, the 4690K has better thermoregulation due to the better heat spreader materials that the devil's canyon setup was given to improve over the original haswell design.

Justkeeplookin · Feb 27, 2015

Basically you wanna overclock get the 4690k, if you don't want/need to overclock the go for 4690

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

TheFluffyDog :

[strike]Xeon's are not supported by the 1150 socket.[/strike]

Sorry, I assumed E5 family not E3.

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

Justkeeplookin :

Read the original post before you answer next time. He specifically was asking about the supported programs of both CPUs, not about the OC'ing capabilities.

Justkeeplookin · Feb 27, 2015

If your question has been answered please select a solution so we may conclude this thread.

E3's are supported by the 1150 socket

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

@Justkeeplookin and st3v30 - Thanks for NOT reading the entire post...

@jdcranke07
Thank you! That's exactly what I thought from the little reading I've done and it's the kind of answer I was looking for.

@TheFluffyDog
I'll look into it; however it's hard for me to find server processors in my country, and they are usually far more expensive than Desktop processors (even if performance is lower).
Also, going with a server processor means (as far as I know, and please correct me if I'm wrong), choosing a server motherboard (again, increasing expenses), and some applications may refuse to run, or require a higher edition/upgrade just because it's running in a server processor.

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

Justkeeplookin :

pool7 :

If you go with an E3 you do not have to swap mobos if you don't want to. However, if the E3 will cost more then just go with the i5 chip.

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

PS: although jdcranke07's answer is valid, I'd still like to keep this open for better/more detailed answers if possible.

Raiin · Feb 27, 2015

if you are planning on OC your CPU then a 4690k or 4790k is what you should be aiming for, if you arent planning on OC drop down to a 4440 or 4460 as its much less expensive than both the 4690 and 4690k. if you want more performance for Dollar without any sort of OC then a Xeon 1231v3 is the perfect CPu to go with, it has 4 cores and 8 threads and its only a about 20$ more expensive than a 4690k, the 1231v3 is just a 4770 without a IGPU for 70$ less.

TofuLion · Feb 27, 2015

now now, no need to bicker.

question for OP: if you don't plan to overclock, why go with a Z97 motherboard?
also, since you'll be doing CAD and other development work, have you considered getting a workstation class GPU? in either case, you could (hopefully) do much better than a 750ti

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

@TofuLion
Thanks for the feedback.
From what I understand, z97 supports SLI (while h97 doesn't). Also, I think z97 is more future proof than h97.
Although I'd do some CAD, it won't be much. Also, I already have the 750Ti (bought some time ago for my previous setup) and I'd like to see how it goes in the new setup before spending on a better one.

jdcranke07 · Feb 27, 2015

pool7 :

If you wanted, the Z87 setup only has a few less bells and whistles compared to the Z97. It is also a bit cheaper. However, I do recommend the Z97 for the future proofing aspect. But, if you really wanted a more workstation setup then the best bet would be the X77 or X99 chipsets since the Z87 and Z97 are meant more for gaming and in some cases do not handle near as much RAM DIMMs either.

ex_bubblehead · Feb 27, 2015

I just spent 10 minutes cleaning this mess of a thread up.

Two things are required in these forums:

1. Civility to other members at all times.
2. All comments are to be relevant to the topic named by the thread originator.

Off topic bickering, name calling, insults, etc. are not tolerated and may result in disciplinary action.

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

Thank you ex_bubblehead; and I apologize, I didn't mean to start such a mess...

TofuLion · Feb 27, 2015

pool7 :

correct, Z97 does support SLI and H97 does not (though it does support Crossfire). however, the 750ti does not support SLI anyway, so Z97 would offer no real benefit, other than the ability to overclock (which is irrelevant). as far as "future-proofing" the H97 and Z97 both have the same CPU socket, and both will support the next gen intel CPU (Broadwell).

just something to consider.

also, i've read that some H97 boards actually offer BIOS updates to allow mild overclocking now (multiplier unlock only, i believe).

pool7 · Feb 27, 2015

Good catch, thanks; I remember buying it in a very tight budget some time ago, and now that I'm building the new PC I thought it was SLI capable, but didn't care to check... oh well.
I may have to change that later on for SLI, depending on gaming needs. In any case I'll see price-wise if I should buy H or Z, but most likely will stick to Z for future-proof SLI/Crossfire.

Thanks again.

TofuLion · Feb 27, 2015

sure, just want to make sure you are fully aware of your options to help you make the best choices you can, regardless of which answer you select

that's what we're here for

pool7 · Mar 2, 2015

I ended up going with a 4460, as it was cheaper and I didn't need the extra power anyway... I can always upgrade later if needed.

Thank you all for your help

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