Best PC Build for Animation/Video Editing/Gaming

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Hello, this is my first time asking for assistance on this site. I was wondering if I could get any recommendations on a PC Build that will suit the needs of being able to handle 3D Animation & Modeling, Video Editing, and Gaming. I would have to say that my max price is 2k, but I may be willing to push it to 2.5k if it turns out to be worth it/necessary

Thanks for any help provided!

EDIT:

Also my price range has been amped to a range of 2k -3k

I would also like it to handle 3 monitors.

Programs/Games I would like to run include (but aren't limited to):
3ds Max
Maya
Softimage
Mudbox
MotionBuilder
Zbrush
V-ray
The Adobe Creative Suite
Unreal Engine

As for the games, I would like to play a game like Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Battlefield 4, etc. at 1080p at 60 fps on with Graphics on High
 
'Best' is a toughie without further information, especially the software you want to run, and the games you want to play.

Here's a starting point well under $2000

Xeon 1231
H97 motherboard or ECC memory supporting board
16Gb of Ram
250Gb+ SSd
1Tb + HDD (maybe two in RAID)
GTX 970
Tier 1 or 2 PSU 55 - 750W
Case you like
Windows 8.1
WiFi?

Do you need keyboard and monitor(s)?
 

ReconAvenger

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Ah sorry about the lack of information
Programs/Games I would like to run:
3ds Max
Maya
Softimage
Mudbox
MotionBuilder
Zbrush
V-ray
The Adobe Creative Suite
Unreal Engine

As for the games, I would like to play a game like Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Battlefield 4, etc. at 1080p at 60 fps with Graphics on High
 

ReconAvenger

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I'd really appreciate that.
 

logainofhades

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This is way overkill, for 1080p gaming, but might be useful for your work related programs. It really depends on how well threaded they are.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($1003.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($554.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2921.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-03 16:31 EST-0500


If your programs are not capable of handling 16 threads, you can substantially drop the price. A 4790k would make far more sense, if this is the case. Only time I ever recommend the 5960x is if people really need the threads for work related tasks.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($326.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($146.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($132.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($554.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2139.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-03 16:35 EST-0500
 

mdocod

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Here's a build focused on maximizing export render performance and scalability for CPU based rendering in Keyshot (Zbrush default), Vray (plugin for autodesk apps), and Mental Ray (Autodesk Built-in renderer). It will also provide excellent performance in the C4D ray-tracing engine, which is now a plugin for After Effects. And of course, all this CPU strength will also scale nicely with video editing in premier. The following build is not intended for use with any GPU accelerated export renderer's like Furyball, V-Ray-RT, Octane, I-Ray, etc.

CPU: E5-2640 V3 $900
GPU: FirePro W7100 8GB $650
HSF: SilverStone AR01 $35
MOBO: Supermicro X10DAI $390
RAM: 4 x 8GB CT4K8G4RFS4213 $390
SSD: Sandisk X210 512GB $250
Storage: WD2000F9YZ $125
PSU: Seasonic SSR-750RM $120
CASE: Phanteks Enthoo Pro $90

~$3000 (no software)

Depending on your workflow, you may be able to make do with a GeForce GPU, though there are viewport options in these 3D creation applications (most especially in Maya) that are only well supported, and/or only perform well on a workstation GPU. The W7100 strikes me as potentially the best choice here for balance between viewport performance and support (especially with its 8GB VRAM buffer), and gaming performance (Tonga core). Though it may be worth trying a gaming GPU for awhile, with the option to upgrade to a workstation GPU later if the gaming GPU presents problems in viewports (Gamble). Most AutoDesk programs are being migrated to viewport 2.0 with the option to run DX11. If I were personally forced to choose a gaming GPU for this workstation, it would be a GeForce, as GeForce cards tend to pass AutoDesk qualification tests more thoroughly than Radeon (some even make the recommended/certified lists), and Nvidia's DX11 implementation on gaming GPU's has better API/driver level optimizations, which would be preferable in compute bound DX11 viewport conditions. So, yea, if you want to save a few hundred bucks, you could take a gamble on a GTX960 or GTX970 instead.

Another possible tradeoff to consider, is compromising on the GTX960 so that you can afford to start the build off with an E5-2660 V3 CPU instead, (25% faster than E5-2640 V3).

If it isn't obvious already, this build proposal is on a dual socket motherboard, but I'm advising the build start out with a single CPU, and have the option to double export render speed with the addition of another equal CPU at a later date. Dual socket boards offer the best compute density and flexibility for combined workstation and render machines.

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I think it's worth pointing out, that all of the export renderers you are likely to be using, not only scale well across many cores, and even across multiple CPU sockets, they also scale well to cluster computing configurations over networks, so there is another approach to this build using consumer hardware (rather than enterprise hardware) that I would like to share as an alternative. The tradeoff, is a reduction in compute density/efficiency and increased configuration complexity (have to build and configure multiple machines, render servers, etc). The advantage is more performance for the money.

Workstation/Gaming machine:
CPU: i7-4790K ~$330
HSF: Rajintek Aidos ~$23
MOBO: Asus H97M-PLUS ~$100
RAM: 4 X 8GB DDR3 (2 X 997069S ) ~$200
GPU: W7100 $650
SSD: Crucial MX200 512GB ~$200
Storage: WD2000F9YZ ~$125
PSU: Seasonic SSR-550RM ~$75
Case: CM N200 ~$45
~$1750 (no software)

Render Nodes:
CPU: FX-8310 (tiger direct) $120
HSF: AMD OE AM2/AM3 125/140W HSF (ebay) ~$12
MOBO: GA-78LMT-USB3 ~$60
RAM: 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport ~$60
HDD: WD2502ABYS ~$22
PSU: SS-350ET ~$40
Case: CM N200 ~$45
~$360 each. (no software)


So you could do the workstation + 2 render nodes for a bit less than the cost of the Xeon workstation. The result would be up to ~30% better viewport and gaming performance (from raw per-core performance), and up to 80% better export render performance (with all 3 machines rendering).

For roughly the price of adding another E5-2640 V3, we could add 2 more render nodes. In that comparison, the 5 machines combined would still offer up to 30% better viewport and gaming performance, and approximately ~40% better export render performance over the dual socket machine.

There are going to be higher software implementation costs with the render node option, as you may need windows on the render nodes (though many export renderers have linux standalone applications available). Depending on the additional software costs involved, using render nodes may or may not be beneficial. You'll have to do some cost analysis there for the renderers you intend to use.

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There are lots of ways to skin this cat, and the build ideas proposed above may not even be relevant to your intended use if you wanted to be able to support any CUDA based export rendering, but maybe it will get the gears turning a bit.
 

mdocod

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The W7100 performs the same in games as its gaming/consumer hardware equivalent, the Tonga core R9 285, except has absolutely no VRAM related constraints in gaming, (unlike the 285, which may be bordering on insufficient for it's render class with only 2GB VRAM in some situations). FirePro has the same directX and Mantle implementation as found on Radeon.

Workstation cards are poor value for gaming specifically, but that's sort of irrelevant here, as the massive VRAM buffer and advanced openGL support is likely worth the price premium for the intended use.

I chose the W7100 specifically because it is the least expensive GPU that fulfills both the requested gaming capabilities and will play nicely in a broad range of professional viewports. Nvidia's least expensive offering that comes close is the K4200 at ~$800, which is a bit weaker in raw render throughput, but commands a greater price premium for its greater versatility (CUDA support).

Here's Tonga with 2GB VRAM running BF4 ultra http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_285_Dual-X_OC/9.html ~45FPS
Should have no problems doing ~60FPS on high settings as requested.
 

logainofhades

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Thanks for pointing all of that out. Workstation cards are definitely not my thing. Looking at your Xeon rig, wouldn't it be a bit more cost effective to go with a 5960x and X99 extreme4? It will easily do 4.0ghz, stable. Anything past 4.0ghz, apparently, the power consumption rises quickly. A 4.0ghz 8 core Intel would be blazing fast. Also, I would probably go with an Evga G2 series psu. Seasonic is great, but that 10yr warranty of the G2 is difficult to pass up. Taking into your input on workstation cards, I am thinking something like this.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($1003.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L 122.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($218.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($352.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($193.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($92.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7100 8GB Video Card ($649.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Source 530 ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (OEM) (64-bit) ($133.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2971.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-05 10:12 EST-0500
 

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What about using a GTX 980 in the system? Would that have positive or negative ramifications when it came to Video Editing/Animation-Modeling? It seems to have more CUDEO cores than the K4200 .