upgrade to i5 4440 or i5 3570k from fx 6300?

mr-proper · Mar 3, 2015

Hello kind people,

I have a relatively simple question. I might be able to get an i5 4440 or i5 3570k. One of my friends wants to set up his own mainframe so i could sell him my fx6300+m5a97 r2.0 mobo for a friendly price (thats what friends are for). All in all if would be a 130 euro investment (motherboard+i5-selling my own stuff).

I use my computer mainly for gaming and as a workstation. I dont do any videorendering or any of that stuff. I do value a pc that is very stable and fast.

My questions are: is it worth it?
If so, which of the i5's is better? Or more futureproof? I not much of an overclocker now, but it might be nice to have the option somewhere down the road.

also, any tips on a good motherboard (somewhere in the 70-100 euro pricerange) for the i5 you recommend (if you recommend it at all)?

Oh, i have a msi gtx 770 lightning, if it is relevant.

I look forward to reading your answers!

st3v30 · Mar 3, 2015

it will be hard to find good new mobo for 3570k that will oc it and you will need a good cooler,but with 4440 you plenty to chose from and you dont need after market cooler,well you can get one if you want less noise.Have you consider 4690k and nice z97 mobo???

MeteorsRaining · Mar 3, 2015

Is it worth it? Yes, i5 is a lot better than current FX CPUs, and even FX 9 don't match a non-K i5 in terms of gaming.

Currently, any i5 will yield similar results. But futureproofing is nicely complimented with an OCable CPU, since higher clock speeds almost always reduces bottleneck, unelss the CPU is short of cores. Even if you don't OC now, a K-SKU CPU is a nice investment to make.

Refer to the Motherboard tier list linked in my signature and pick up a Z97 board per your wish

PS. Get 4th gen K SKU i5 if possible, 3rd gen is obsolete in terms of availability now.

boosted1g · Mar 3, 2015

i5 is better and worth the upgrade.

If you are getting a good price on the 3570 and a board from somewhere then go for it, otherwise there is no need to pay as much if not more for previous generation hardware

mr-proper · Mar 3, 2015

First of all, thank you for the quick replies!

Are you guys saying that the 4440 will perform on par with the 3570k?

a 4 series K version might be stretching my budget and needs a little too far. I feel like i would have to invest in an expensive motherboard to make the most of it. If im wrong, please correct me.

Im leaning more toward the i5 4440 as its newer tech. Is there a big (noticable) difference between the non-K 4 series? Which one would hit the sweet spot between performance and price?

TNT27 · Mar 3, 2015

Fx 6300 as its free, it will hold out just fine for another year when Skylake and new line of FX processors come out. These will be a bigger jump in performance from current tech, as ddr4 would become the norm.

But if you absolutely need that small performance increase in gaming than any i5 4th gen will do it for you, i5 4590 seems to be best for price/performance in that series.

Fx 6300 can handle newer Gpus just fine, and dx12/mantle will be spreading load across the 6 cores more effectively.

With the FX though you need to overclock, as this will help close the gap that intels ipc has.

MeteorsRaining · Mar 3, 2015

Currently, as mentioned earlier, there's no big difference in performance b/w non-K and K-SKU i5. So yes it 4440 will perform on par with 3570k. You don't need an overly expensive board, a decent $80 Z97 will be fine for moderate-high OCing on the i5, in future, if not now.

mr-proper · Mar 3, 2015

allright, TNT27's post is interesting. anyone agrees? I feel as if the fx 6300 (maybe im just imagining it) is less stable and fast (even in windows) then some i5's i saw in action.

Nevertheless, it performs decent for my needs. If i sell it you could see it as a nice discount toward a i5 system. If i keep this rig I will keep it the way it is for a long time, im willing to invest now or keep it the way it is.

Is this a good investment for the coming 2-3 years? maybe i wouldnt notice the difference now, would i notice it further down the road? Or would the directx12/mantle story make the fx 6300 keep up?

Thanks for your answers!

MeteorsRaining · Mar 3, 2015

The value of a rig degrades over time, and therefore I'd invest now. FX 6300 is based on a 3 year old platform, with no scope of improvement, I'd be surprised if AMD launches another model on AM3+ platform.

i5 will be a good investment for 2-3 years at the least, i5 2nd gen users are still laughing off requirements of latest games.

mr-proper · Mar 3, 2015

Thank you very much! Last question: gigabye z97p-d3? Good choice? I see it on your list but it isnt notorious for bad quality or anything?

Picked best solution by meteors raining, thanks man!

st3v30 · Mar 3, 2015

Try to get rev 1.1 since almost every gigbayte board has few revisions with problems.

MeteorsRaining · Mar 4, 2015

Yes Z97O D3 is a good board, no persistent issues with quality.

bungz · Mar 4, 2015

For the vast majority of games with a GTX 770 you will see NO benefit swapping from the 6300 to a i5.

LucoTF · Mar 4, 2015

i5 3570k & good mobo & cooler would be stronger than the 4440, but both are absolutely solid for gaming so get whichever works out cheapest I guess?

I haven't heard any complaints about the z97p-d3, if you're getting it with the 4440 it gives you a bit of an upgrade path at least

con635 · Mar 4, 2015

bungz :

x2, you could be disappointed.

TNT27 · Mar 4, 2015

No point getting i5, unless you are playing games like Planetside 2, or other unoptimized games running on huge heavy single thread, even though they might have more threads.

st3v30 · Mar 4, 2015

Here is heavy OC FX 8350 vs stock 4440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSQRGVU6glc

He will see huge difference in all games since he is switching from stock FX 6300.

con635 · Mar 4, 2015

st3v30 :

But he wont, your video show bf4 on a 980, high/ultra settings I'd guess his 770 would be around 50-70fps inbf4 no matter the cpu. Then you have ask if there was no fps displayed on screen, would you be able to see the difference in that video?

st3v30 · Mar 4, 2015

Yes you can since AMD CPU have huge FPS dips in low when some scenes happens i know that cuz i own one.When i play bf3 my cpu usage is around 60-70% with r7 260x.He have gtx 770,CPU is probably in 90's while gpu is in 70 or 60% usage and that is severe bottleneck.So he will feel huge difference.

MeteorsRaining · Mar 5, 2015

To clear the doubts, here is a benchmark very similar to what is being considered here:

GTX 770 is comparable to GTX 680 in performance, and even at 4.7GHz, FX 6 falls behind the stock i5 3rd gen.

Here's another:

GPU used was GTX 670.

giantbucket · Mar 5, 2015

mr-proper :

ya know, i still can't get past this. mainframe and fx6300 don't really go together often...

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