New System Build, Questions regarding 5820k VS FX 9590, DDR4 vs DDR3.

Nekrophiliak

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I can buy now, or I can wait out the market.

Budget is $1300 for Memory, CPU, PSU, Mobo, and cooling.

Usage, Gameing (WoW, Swtor, SC2), Some assembly and compiling for school projects(small easy stuff), Internet browsing, listening to music, nothing incredibly taxing on the system.

I have 4 monitors.

I have Windows 7 Pro

I will not be overclocking

I do not run SLI, unless I shut off some monitors, but typically I do not run SLI


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Ok so here is a little background as to why I am getting a new system. I originally was on a sub $1000 budget and built a system with ASUS Sabertooth 990fx, Phenom II X6 1055T, and 32GB of Corsairs Dominator 1866, with Corsairs HX1000 PSU. The original PSU wiped out my system in less than 6 months, Corsair sent me a new HX1050, which also wiped out my system in 6 months yet again. Corsair was easy to work with and did pony up full retail for my system so I cannot say anything bad about them other than something is going on with that HX series PSU. I also had an issue with my ASUS Sabertooth board which took 14 RMA's and ended up unsolved, ASUS would send back refurbished boards with damage, and blown capacitors, I eventually started filming the unboxing of the boards and then sending that footage to ASUS. Ultimately I ended up buying the GIgabyte 990FX ud7 and eating the cost rather than continue the shenanigans with ASUS, although I probably should have sued them. Anyways so this time around I am left with my case, 3xSSD's (samsung 840's and 850s, 128, 256, 256), and 2x EVGA GTX 660's.


In short: I have left over parts to use, my case(Cooler Master HAF 912), 3xSSD's (samsung 840's and 850s, 128, 256, 256), and 2x EVGA GTX 660's. I refuse to buy ASUS, ASRock, or Corsair even if it is a performance hit.

I have 2 potential system builds in mind that I wish to run by folks and get feedback before I make any lasting choices.

System 1:
Intel i7-5820k
Cooler Master Nepton 240M Liquid cooling
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB (4x4gb) DDR4, F4-3000C15Q-16GRK
Gigabyte GA-x99M - Gaming 5 LGA 2011-v3
Antec HCP-850 Platinum, 850Watt

The SOC Force and GA-x99 boards seemed overkill since I do not plan to over clock, but I may be missing something, I doubt I will be buying 32GB or 64GB of ram to upgrade later as 16GB will probably be fine for years to come. I would very much like to have the RAM running at 3000 and have seen some people having issues getting the 5820k to run with memory at 3000. Does anyone have experience running a 5820K with 3000 CAS 15 RAM?

System 2:
AMD FX 9590 w/liquid cooling
ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z (<----biggest killer for me)
G.Skill Trident X Series 32GB (4x8GB) 1866, CAS 8, F3-1866C8Q-32GTX
Antec HCP-850 Platinum, 850Watt

(I hate ASUS, while I think their boards are superior their RMA department is the worst I have ever seen, I have experience dealing with Corsair, Asus, Gigabyte, AMD, EVGA, and, Cooler Master. ASUS RMA customer service is in my opinion trumped only by Comcast. I would run any other board, but the 9590 seems to require it, the GA-990FXA UD7 is discontinued and the one I had was destroyed by Corsair's HX-1050 PSU)


So the questions I have are:

Does anyone have experience running the 5820k with memory at speeds of 3000, and if so was it easy to set up or did it take hours of tweaking?

From what I have read the upgrade to DDR4 is not all that much of an upgrade over DDR3, would I be better off saving some money and going with a Devil's Canyon over the Haswell E, if I choose Intel over AMD in this case?

Are their any obvious design flaws in my proposed systems that I am overlooking and will regret later, such as bad matching of memory, mobo, and CPU?

I have looked at the benchmarking for the CPU's and it seems that the Haswell E scores ~15% more points than the VIshera, but in every day use do those scores really relate to a noticeable difference in performance between the two?

Finally with the PCIe lane reduction in the 5820k and the use of 2X 660 gtx cards, will I be wasting my money not buying the 5930K, or are the 660's so old that it is trivial? Remember I won't be running them in SLI most of the time unless for some rare occasion I unplug monitors in advance for a specific game or something. Once you go 4 screens you never go back.


Thank you for any advice, or criticism about my proposed systems.
 

Nekrophiliak

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Maybe I should be more specific about my purpose, I already have 3 machines running 32GB kits and AMD 6-8 core CPU's that I originally built for running many instances of a particular MMO. While games like WOW would run on my pistachio or ti-83 I really want to have a nice machine to sit in my garage and be stared at rather than raced around, I'm not really going to do much with it other than brag about it. Yes I didn't mean to say i want it to run at 3000, I apologize for that, what I meant was I don't want to buy some ram kit and have to run it slower, otherwise I might as well just buy slower ram. ie when I bought the 1866 Dominator RAM I ended up at 1600, so I might as well have bought 1600. The reason I don't OC, is so that I never void my warranties, I have had so many parts go bad on me I feel like I live my life past the 3rd standard deviation, unless I am mistaken and OCing doesn't void your warranty. When things go wrong I prefer it if they aren't my financial problem, as things tend to go so wrong so often, ie 2 blown Corsair PUS's, 2 kits of bad Dominator Ram, 1 bad ASUS mobo in my last build alone, but it's all under warranty so guess who is not liable for this mess. Ill go have a look at those parts you listed though, thank you for the suggestions.