Looking to build my 1st pc advice needed

MrEleven1181

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Hello people
Looking for some advice, I know absolute nothing about pcs and how to build them. I've always been a console guy but looking to make the switch this summer. So basically I have around £1000 could go more if it's going to be noticeably better. I just want a pc that will play games at 1080p 60fps. I've also decided I want to go with amd over Intel so if people could recommend a setup of everything I need, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
My first advice would be to reconsider Intel over AMD, since for that budget any Intel system will perform much better than any AMD system.

Also, what are you looking for exactly? Do you need a monitor and peripherals? Do you need an OS?
 

MrEleven1181

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My budget is for the pc only, I'm going to be gaming with the pc and recording some gameplays for my yt channel but that's about all it will be getting used for. I'm also pretty set on the AMD processors.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£128.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£54.24 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£89.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£126.37 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£170.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£56.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£288.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£60.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1007.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edit: this build for gaming and over clocking the FX for maximum performance. You could settle for less ram, smaller ssd and HDD and get 2 video cards for a crossfire setup. But at 1080p 60 fps this will be more than enough.
 

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Two things:

1. You can easily build a rig that will play 60fps and 1080 for £1000. So you could probably go cheaper.

2. Why are you set on AMD when you've said you know nothing about PCs? Not being hostile, just curious.
 

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This isn't a bad build, but could be more economical I feel. He said he has a £1000, but he could go cheaper. E.G. Does he really need a 500GB ssd and a 2TB HD? I game a lot and am fine with 256GB MX100 and a 1TB HD.

Also 16gb ram is overkill at the moment.

The money could be put towards a monitor instead.

Edit: also more than 4 core is also overkill for gaming
 

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I've been reading about processors for the last few days, it's the only thing I've researched so far. I'm led to believe the i5 intel that's usually recommended over the amd 8350 I think it's called, although the i5 performs slightly better it's not noticble to the eye in terms of fps and as I'm happy with 60fps at 1080p the amd is better value. Is this not correct ? I've also seen videos on them and I cannot tell the difference.
 

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Yeah you're right, AMD are usually better value. So if you're just after 60fps on 1080p, you'll be fine with almost any quad cpu. Newer games like Shadow of mordor and Witcher 3 may be a different story. What games will you be playing?
 
For comparison, an Intel build, which will perform better:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£180.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£54.24 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£109.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£98.69 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£123.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£56.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£288.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£60.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1004.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The AMD CPU is cheaper, but the CPU and CPU cooler comes to more

Here's what I mean. Changed CPU, Cooler, motherboard and memory.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£66.17 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£97.55 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£56.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£288.35 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£60.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £881.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is a budget version with a better GPU (less power, similar performance)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£66.17 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£48.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card (£278.79 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£48.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £733.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Money can be spent on OS, and a good monitor. Do you need WiFi or ODD?

The GTX 970 has Shadowplay for recording and streaming too.
 

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They are better, no doubt about it. BUT, do you need one? The answer is no. For a gaming pc, the main thing is the GPU. I have an i5-750. Sort of old and crap compared to all these processors everyone is recommending. The main games I play are LoL and CS go etc and it's totally fine...the CPU is almost irrelevant. As long as you have a quad core, you will be fine. Having said that, I wouldn't buy my CPU now if I was building a new PC because I would want to future proof it. I would buy myself an i5-4460 or and AMD equivalent.

Summary: if you want an AMD, don't let people talk you out of it. Games are usually GPU intensive and as long as you have a quad core, CPU will make minimal difference to frame rate.
 

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That second rig Donkeyoatie posted is enough. In fact it's a beast compared to mine and I play the games you will with no problem.

Important points to remember:-

You want 8GB ram
Get an SSD - doesn't really matter which
Put the bulk of the budget into the GPU.
 
Wifi Added and changed to mini-ITX motherboard. I use this and like it a lot.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£48.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card (£278.79 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£48.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £748.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Intel will perform better, because it will enable your graphic card to perform better. It well also have better minimum framerates, which will translate into smoother gameplay, especially when recording during gaming. If the difference is noticeable depends on what game you play, for example dayz is very CPU dependant and it will be noticeable.

I also agree, you can achieve similar results with cheaper systems for instance the 4460 well also be good. But the best option now for gaming is the 4690k, overclock it and it will preform very well.
 

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when u go with amd, in 6 months u will regret your decission big time.
I don t know which benchmarks u watch but there is big difference in fps between amd and intel. i5 4460 beats any amd cpu in games. If u not interested in OC is even worse to use amd, cause with no OC they suck brutal.Only with OC u can get close to power of an i5...
But it s your money
 

bembene

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so u trust on one guy on youtube?
U said u dont know anything about pc, go google tests from benchmarks. After 1h u will know what we say. the difference is huge and u will notice it big time. AMD sucks for gaming, many people even prefer i3 over AMD cpu cause they so bad.
there is a reason everybody say go for i5 when u can. AMD only good for budget build and when u do lot of video editing, for gaming is worst decission ever....
 


That's a bit OTT. An overclocked FX6300 or FX8350 will work for this OP's needs. I think that the Intel solution will be cheaper because of less cooling and power use meaning cheaper motherboards, CPU cooler, and PSU.

 
This is the first time you mentioned video editing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£128.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Killer ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£111.41 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£99.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card (£278.79 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.23 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£48.98 @ Novatech)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£19.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £859.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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