Need someone to double check my buidl!

Rubbrbandman · Mar 8, 2015

Hey guys,

Looking at building my 1st gaming PC and was wondering if someone wouldn't mind double checking the parts I have picked out.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tkfft6

Thanks in advance guys!

digitaldoc · Mar 8, 2015

Corsair RM has junky capacitators, and 1000 W is too much. Try an EVGA 750 W.

You can use 8 GB of RAM, and 16 GB is overkill.

With the money saved, look into an SSD like the Crucial MX100 or MX200 for the OS install.

I would also change the CPU to the FX8350 or FX8320 for this kind of money you are spending. This will also give you more performance than the RAM at 16 GB would.

Rubbrbandman · Mar 8, 2015

digitaldoc :

I originally had the FX-8350 black series picked out with 8 GB (2x4) of the G. Skill Ripjaws. After talking with one of my friends that has built one or two, said this to me "Drop your cores to 6 max. Games can't use more than 4 right now (and none utilize the full 4 anyway) so going higher actually kills your frame rate.
Since most issues come from RAM increase that to at least 12 total (go with 16 for those intense dedicated video RAM games).
Otherwise looks sweet for a good price

"

rhysiam · Mar 8, 2015

Bear in mind that the AMD FX architecture claims "8 cores" but it really only has four modules. Anandtech did a deepdive on the architecture here if you're interested: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/2 -> that's on the older 8150, but the principle hasn't changed with more recent FX chips.

I've never seen any indication whatsoever of a game benefiting from more than 8GB RAM. I don't believe that personally. Also, RAM is the easiest upgrade you can make to your computer. Literally switch it off, insert new RAM, switch it back on again -> job done. No software/drivers/config whatsoever. So IMHO you're always better saving money on RAM because it's such an easy upgrade down the track.

An SSD + WD Blue is a far, far better solution that a WD Black. It may cost you a little more, but building a computer at your budget without an SSD is criminal IMHO. Makes the biggest difference to the responsiveness of your build by a mile. Boots, program loads, etc. SSD difference is night and day.

I think digitaldoc has given you good advice there.

Rubbrbandman · Mar 8, 2015

rhysiam :

Bear in mind that the AMD FX architecture claims "8 cores" but it really only has four modules. Anandtech did a deepdive on the architecture here if you're interested: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/2 -> that's on the older 8150, but the principle hasn't changed with more recent FX chips.

I've never seen any indication whatsoever of a game benefiting from more than 8GB RAM. I don't believe that personally. Also, RAM is the easiest upgrade you can make to your computer. Literally switch it off, insert new RAM, switch it back on again -> job done. No software/drivers/config whatsoever. So IMHO you're always better saving money on RAM because it's such an easy upgrade down the track.

An SSD + WD Blue is a far, far better solution that a WD Black. It may cost you a little more, but building a computer at your budget without an SSD is criminal IMHO. Makes the biggest difference to the responsiveness of your build by a mile. Boots, program loads, etc. SSD difference is night and day.

I think digitaldoc has given you good advice there.

So would you say that switching out the WD Black for the SSD + WD Blue and dropping down to 8-12 GB of RAM would help?

rhysiam · Mar 8, 2015

8GB Ram is fine. Get 2x4GB kit and you'll have dual channel.

This is a decent budget 120GB SSD for $50: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/2

And here's a 2TB 7200RPM drive for $72: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001

So that's actually the same price as your 2TB Black. Put the OS and a few key programs on the SSD and everything else on the HDD and you're good to go.

Definitely revisit your PSU choice too. 650W is enough for 1 card, 850W is enough for CFX down the track, unless you intend to chase massive overclocks (in which case you'd need a better cooler than the Hyper Evo anyways).

digitaldoc · Mar 8, 2015

Rubbrbandman :

Yes, 8 GB of RAM is plenty. As you can see below, above 8 GB really does not help for games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,2778-8.html

Yes WD Blue and an SSD are much better than an WD Black. The SSD's are quite affordable currently, and is worth it just for the startups, shutdowns, and no defrags.

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100-2-5-Inch-Internal-CT128MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGD88/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1425870283&sr=8-3&keywords=crucial+mx100

Rubbrbandman · Mar 10, 2015

rhysiam :

Bear in mind that the AMD FX architecture claims "8 cores" but it really only has four modules. Anandtech did a deepdive on the architecture here if you're interested: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/2 -> that's on the older 8150, but the principle hasn't changed with more recent FX chips.

I've never seen any indication whatsoever of a game benefiting from more than 8GB RAM. I don't believe that personally. Also, RAM is the easiest upgrade you can make to your computer. Literally switch it off, insert new RAM, switch it back on again -> job done. No software/drivers/config whatsoever. So IMHO you're always better saving money on RAM because it's such an easy upgrade down the track.

An SSD + WD Blue is a far, far better solution that a WD Black. It may cost you a little more, but building a computer at your budget without an SSD is criminal IMHO. Makes the biggest difference to the responsiveness of your build by a mile. Boots, program loads, etc. SSD difference is night and day.

I think digitaldoc has given you good advice there.

So after reading up on that article, I'd like to switch over to a Intel build. What would be your recommendation (mobo/cpu)?

digitaldoc · Mar 10, 2015

Core i5-4690 is the CPU I would go with.

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