Upgrading my PC. What should i upgrade first?

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

These are my system specs:

OS: Win 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Processor: Amd anthlon 64 processor 3500+, 2.2ghz
RAM: 2gb
Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce gt 610 2gb
Monitor Res: 1440x900

I can only upgrade 1 thing for now and yes i will upgrade my whole pc. Also I know that this will bottleneck the pc heavily but i don't have enough money right now. For the processor i don't know if it is upgradable so also recommend a mobo to go with it.
My Overall budget will be near Rs.13000.
On a side note i am a heavy gamer. Please don't ask how i managed to play games all this while. Also i was thinking of ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 750 1 GB DDR5 which sell for Rs.8650 in our country

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

13K in which currency? Also mention the PSU and your Mobo as well.

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

This board: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157564

This CPU: http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117447

Then upgrade the PSU and GPU later. With your current CPU there are really no options regarding a GPU that's going to significantly improve your experience without being severely bottlenecked by the CPU.

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

abhisheksscorpion :

The power supply is 440V and currency is indian rupees. Mobo is hp dx2255 MT

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

H97 is a decent option, but buying AsRock especially here in India with the worst after sales, i would advise to go for different manufacturer. IMO go for this http://www.newegg.com/global/in/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132120&cm_re=ASUS_h_97-_-13-132-120-_-Product .

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

I think you mean W (Watts), not V (Volts). And the current motherboard is irrelevant as there are no CPUs you can upgrade to that use the same platform which would be worth your time or investment in regard to the performance you would see. Any upgrade that's worthwhile will involve a new motherboard and CPU, followed by a capable GPU. The GT 610 is weak and is likely the majority of your issue with gaming performance, but anything worth upgrading to is going to need at least an i3 or FX series chip.

Since the i3 outperforms the FX chips for an investment that's close to the same price range, plus it will allow you to then upgrade to an i5 or i7 later without again having to replace the motherboard, it's the only one that makes any sense.

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

Will the processor upgrade be better for gaming performance or the gpu?
if i buy a gpu will it bottleneck so much that it matches the current performance?

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

abhisheksscorpion :

That's a good board too, but unfortunately you can't make budget using that board AND a capable CPU. Anything lower than the CPU I outlined, is going to leave you lacking once again. If you can swing the extra funds, the ASUS board is a better option, but again it's also more expensive.

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

Smarthero38 :

As I already said, upgrading to a capable GPU now is pointless since your current CPU can't keep up. Replacing the current CPU and motherboard however, will at least allow your current GPU to work at full capacity without having to wait on the CPU. Then when you upgrade the GPU later, you'll already have a CPU capable of allowing it to perform well enough to far outweigh what you're running now. Keep in mind though that any GPU you upgrade to that's worth investing in is probably also going to require that you also purchase a GOOD, not cheap, not budget, but GOOD quality and also probably higher capacity, PSU.

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

Smarthero38 :

As I already said, upgrading to a capable GPU now is pointless since your current CPU can't keep up. Replacing the current CPU and motherboard however, will at least allow your current GPU to work at full capacity without having to wait on the CPU. Then when you upgrade the GPU later, you'll already have a CPU capable of allowing it to perform well enough to far outweigh what you're running now. Keep in mind though that any GPU you upgrade to that's worth investing in is probably also going to require that you also purchase a GOOD, not cheap, not budget, but GOOD quality and also probably higher capacity, PSU.

I will buy the mobo and Processor recommended by you then upgrade the Gpu to a ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 750 1 GB DDR5. One more thing does newegg ship their goods to other countries? Thanks

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

When you're on a tight budget you need to now your limits and the parts you can compromise on. I don't think the 1.5k ~ he"ll save on the board is worth it atm. You don't know when the board will die and the shitty reason the AsRock people will give you while going for rma. Also, the current config of OP is too outdated and a full overhaul is a must, but in that tight budget you can't just straight go for the GPU, anything current GPU would be b'necked and it ain't worth it. The config you suggested is decent, i just gave him a better board , which is a bit future safe as well, if he upgrades the i3.

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

Smarthero38 :

Darkbreeze :

I will buy the mobo and Processor recommended by you then upgrade the Gpu to a ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 750 1 GB DDR5. One more thing does newegg ship their goods to other countries? Thanks

Well, go for EVGA GTX 960 SC edition, thats the best 750 in the market.

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

Just because you had a bad experience with ASRock doesn't mean they are "shitty". They make both high end and low quality hardware, just like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA and the rest. You generally get what you pay for. The H97 anniversary is a Tier 2 board which is fine quality for this build. The board you recommended is a Tier 1 board, but again, can't be fit into the budget. The money saved IS worth it, since it allow him to get a decent i3 with hyperthreading and good single core performance rather than having to settle for a shitty dual core Pentium.

As far as Newegg shipping to India, the parts I linked to are ON the Newegg India website.

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

abhisheksscorpion :

I'm beginning to wonder if you know what you're talking about. How is a GTX 960 the best "750" on the market. It's a 960, not a 750. They're two different series altogether. Either you're confused or that was some kind of typo. I'm hoping it was a typo, but the GTX 960, that runs about two hundred bucks, can't be included in a conversation about a hundred to hundred and twenty dollar GTX 750.

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

This happens when your simultaneously answering multiple threads(I hope, i don't repeat this). This is what i was talking about.
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425887190&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+GeForce+GTX+750+Ti

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

Ok, that's what I figured was something got confused there. That looks more relevant. This would be a better option though if the budget is really limited as I'm going to take a guess here and assume the current PSU is probably a cheap off brand or very old unit, since they usually are with systems that old, and he'll likely need to replace that as well.

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-Dual-Link-Graphics-01G-P4-2753-KR/dp/B00IDG3LUO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425887409&sr=8-5&keywords=GTX+750

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

abhisheksscorpion :

Darkbreeze :

This happens when your simultaneously answering multiple threads(I hope, i don't repeat this). This is what i was talking about.
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425887190&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+GeForce+GTX+750+Ti

Not available in India?

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

I'll take a look at Flipkart tomorrow to see if there are any decent prices on compatible hardware, but I'm done for today.

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

So what's the conclusion here? should i go for ASUS or ASRock?
I am going to upgrade the processor but just out of curiosity what change will the new processor have?

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

Already checked , unfortunately the Mobo's are not listed there. I could only find the hardware at newegg.

abhisheksscorpion · Mar 9, 2015

Smarthero38 :

Go for the one that fits the budget, AsRock mobo is a decent one, but i don't trust their after sales, if you have a bit extra cash , go for the Asus one , it is a bit future safe though. The choice is yours, just because i had a bad exp with AsRock doesn't necessarily mean you too will also face that.

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

abhisheksscorpion :

If being future safe takes a little money then i think that the ASUS is the best bet

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

Any Tier 1 or Tier 2 board at the following link is fine.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2383217/motherboard-tier-list-h97-chipset.html

Smarthero38 · Mar 9, 2015

Darkbreeze :

How about a AMD 3.5 AM3+ FX 6-Core Edition FX-6300 ?

Darkbreeze · Mar 9, 2015

You don't want to do that. The i3 whips the FX chips plus it offers you an upgrade path to a better CPU down the road. The FX processors are a dead end, especially the 6 core chips.

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